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> Even if that is true, the harm that does not come from the fact that it's illegal would be magnified a hundredfold if it became as widespread as alcohol (which is, please keep that in mind, the scenario I was talking about). That's not hyperbole: Accodding to the European Drug Report 2018 ( https://www.emcdda.europa.eu/system/files/publications/8585/ ...), the prevalence of injecting drugs (chiefly heroin) is betwe…

> Heroin is not a party drug while alcohol is. Cocaine, Meth, and MDMA I would expect to see increase in usage for the party scene but heroin specifically wouldn't see that increase, it would a small increase at first but overall that would go down. Given how strong the heroin high is and how quickly and strongly physical addiction is, I would not be so sure about that. > Portugal has shown that if you legalise the d…

> Given how strong the heroin high is and how quickly and strongly physical addiction is, I would not be so sure about that.

Have taken the drug and seen countless addicts, I can be sure on that.

> Portugal has not, in fact, legalised any previously illegal drug, or even fully decriminalized it. Not even cannabis.

OK, but they did make it a health matter instead of criminal matter. The fact the power is no longer in the criminal justice system means it's decriminalised.

Re: German police take down 'world's largest darknet marketplace'

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Alcohol is a big problem in Germany: 3 million people with alcohol issues and 74,000 yearly deaths.² Weed is considered less of a problem by the scientific community. The logical conclusion: Increase taxes on alcohol and legalize weed. -- ² https://www.dhs.de/suechte/alkohol/zahlen-daten-fakten

> Increase taxes on alcohol Illegal production of homebrewn alcohol is a thing and has been for centuries. Raising taxes at will does not mean that everyone will, unhappily, continue to buy expensive alcohol in the store. There is a limit after which people will start to produce their own moonshine, which is less safe than whatever you buy legally. Or start drinking various chemicals that resemble alcohol. (Window cl…

Sure, there will be some illegally produced alcohol. The majority of the alcohol consuming public will start consuming less alcohol. So that's no reason not to tax it, is it? What you're suggesting is like saying we shouldn't forbid some random crime because people will commit it regardless.
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