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Re: GitHub has received a DMCA from MPA about torrent tracker nyaa.si

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post #86

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Well... they already succeeded in screwing some hardware and software this way. When Windows Vista was about to launch, MPAA pushed hard for DVD copy protection, this resulted in a sudden push against CRT monitors, in favor of then lower quality LCD, to force the usage of HDMI cables (because they have DRM), they also pushed hard for Microsoft to change what soundcards were allowed to do, again because of DRM. This c…

> were about to have breakthrough in lightweight CRT Never heard of this. There's a limit on how lightweight a CRT can be, compared to what amounts to essentially a large chip. Maybe that wasn't so bad. Also, unless this breakthrough no longer used an electron gun, they are power hogs. > to force the usage of HDMI cables What's preventing one from driving a CRT with a HDMI signal? You can generate the analog signals…

Explanation of SoundCard market death:

Microsoft removed all capabilities of user software to directly interface with audio hardware, MS at the time officially blamed BSoDs that were caused by soundcards, but this change also made very hard to write software that could circunvent audio DRM (ie: when you had total access to soundcard hardware, it was easy to write a program to just stream to disk whatever the soundcard calculated, before it encoded the HDMI DRM on the output).

The new "driver API" for soundcards was extremely limited, basically you could tell windows some details of your hardware, and software could ask windows to do certain tasks, like raise volume, lower volume, etc... any Windows game since that has their own 3D audio, is done by the game itself calculating the audio, and asking Windows to play that audio.

But when you could tinker with the hardware directly, you could build audio processors that would take as inputs some audio samples, then 3D models, material definitions, and then raytrace (in way almost identical to video, since light is also wave, thus same rules apply, this also mean it has same computational expense) the results, then you could play on the speakers the result.

If the user had multiple speakers, he could explain to the soundcard where they are physically in his RL room, then the soudncard could act as if each speaker was a "camera" in the 3D world, and raytrace how the audio would act, for example suppose the player was underwater in a pool room, and there was a loud explosion outside, the game would figure out the sound would reflect on the hallway corridors, reach the door, difract, reach the water, refract, and reach the player.

One way of doing so was EAX from Creative, but OpenAL also worked too, it even intentionally had API at the time simialr to OpenGL, so it a graphics coder would feel confortable also coding the 3D audio, Doom3 for example supports OpenAL 3D audio.

As for the high-tech CRT, DiabloD3 awnser is accurate, there was also Sony's "Field Emission" tech too.

And no, analog signals are not easy to generate, the "dirt cheap dongles" or aren't cheap (good converters from digital to analog are often in the 50 USD+ range having good proper RAMDACs) or are crap and can't do high-res high-refresh rate, and might struggle with colour, in analog era some crazy stuff regarding colours were possible, for example SGI sold a videocard that could output the analog data to display image files that had 48 bits per pixel, one of its purposes was HDR photo editing, "cheap dongles" absolutely can't do that.

Re: GitHub has received a DMCA from MPA about torrent tracker nyaa.si

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post #256

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The current pro translators have learned from the fansubbers and often use the same tools; some even are former fansubbers. Thus they've largely kicked fanmade speedsubs out of the "market". The fansub quantity, for sure, has decreased, but not the quality. Speedsubs are no longer a concern for fansubbing these days. Meanwhile, the remaining fansubbers are competing by maximizing quality, with features such as singab…

>The fansub quantity, for sure, has decreased, but not the quality. Speedsubs are no longer a concern for fansubbing these days. That's exactly why the quality has gone down, due to these speed subs. Back in the day speed subs were not a thing. They popped up when legal subs started popping up, almost as a way to compete. I think the first big name speed sub group was horriblesubs, and they still exist today. Today f…

> When's the last time you've seen high quality karaoke on fansubs?

Literally this season, on DameDesuYo’s subtitles for Attack on Titan.

Re: GitHub has received a DMCA from MPA about torrent tracker nyaa.si

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post #308

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Who doesn't? And how exactly do they do prevent you from exercising your democratic rights?

What do you mean by “show strong opposition but using civil and democratic means”? Give me that, and I'll show you millions who can't, or that it isn't effective, or rejoice and change the world.

Here are a few:

  - engage in discussions
  - speak up against injustices
  - vote
  - join groups of like-minded people
  - exercise your right to demonstrate
Change is hard, and it is slow. That is usually not a bad thing; however, it requires persistence.

I'm currently stuck in Germany. Think about the late 80s when a whole state was brought down peacefully by the people of the German Democratic Republic. It was not a storm on the Reichstag that brought about the fall of the state, nor a military coup. It was a lot of different factors combined but an increasing pressure from the people played a central role in it. And, mind you, this was a regime that had no problem taking extreme measures against its own people, so certainly no easy circumstances to stand up against the authorities.

Re: GitHub has received a DMCA from MPA about torrent tracker nyaa.si

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post #138

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It is stated in the complaint: > Specifically, at the URL, the Repository hosts and offers for download the Project, which, when downloaded, provides the downloader everything necessary to launch and host a “clone” infringing website identical to Nyaa.si (and, thus, engage in massive infringement of copyrighted motion pictures and television shows). This is not a generic BitTorrent tracker. This is source code for du…

It's a torrent index with search, categories, user management and so on. I don't see how I can't use this for hosting Linux ISOs by just renaming the categories.

You could use it, but would it be the most natural thing for you? Or are there better tools for that task? The nyaa source code includes features and organization specifically for the anime/manga scene.

For example, there is torrent classification to detect whether the torrent contains an entire series, which subtitles it contains, whether it is a reencode/remux/scene release, etc [1]. Would that be useful for you to host legitimate content (which typically is not reencoded/remuxed/fansubbed)?

I am all for criticizing the chilling effects if the DMCA was targeting the DMCA protocol in any way. But in this case, it is targeting the source code for a CLEARLY illegal website (illegal, in this case, based on the jurisdiction in which github operates and is bound to)

[1] https://github.com/seco/nyaa-1/blob/master/nyaa/templates/he...

Re: GitHub has received a DMCA from MPA about torrent tracker nyaa.si

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This is only true if you consider information that can be used to pirate works as "infringing material" that falls under the DMCA (in particular its safe harbour provision). Which would effectively give any copyright holder carte blanche to censor any information that can be used to infringe their copyright.

But isn't that exactly what's happening here?

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Re: GitHub has received a DMCA from MPA about torrent tracker nyaa.si

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post #115

> Specifically, at the URL, the Repository hosts and offers for download the Project, which, when downloaded, provides the downloader everything necessary to launch and host a “clone” infringing website identical to Nyaa.si (and, thus, engage in massive infringement of copyrighted motion pictures and television shows). I'd like for Motion Picture Association to publish a step-by-step guide on how I can engage in mass…

We should ban all ISP also. They pass the files to users.

Yes, but without them how will the consumers be able to access the nonpirated versions. In all seriousness though, if the ISPs banded together, they could hold the (first)world hostage. Trying to hold the ISP accountable for what it's users are doing is an extremely dangerous precedent. Right now (or at least last year) there were huge debates going on about just how much culpability social media platforms should take in regards to content posted on them, and it was chaos, everybody had different opinions and policies. Now imagine what that chaos would do if, instead of content rules being different from facebook to twitter, the rules differed from Verizon to Comcast

Re: GitHub has received a DMCA from MPA about torrent tracker nyaa.si

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It seems to me that they are deliberately conflating "infringing someone's copyright" and "using to infringe someone's copyright" - there's a difference between "you have my copyrighted code in your github" and "you are providing software that can be used for copying my movie" - the first is what DMCA notices are for, not the second

Your last sentence is not true. The DMCA notice can be used for anything that the DMCA covers. One thing in the DMCA is: > linking users to an online location containing [...] infringing activity Extremely broad, but a link to a file sharing site with infringing content is also infringing. The DMCA notice can be used against the site containing the link.

How many degrees of separation is this true for?

Re: GitHub has received a DMCA from MPA about torrent tracker nyaa.si

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post #266

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>The fansub quantity, for sure, has decreased, but not the quality. Speedsubs are no longer a concern for fansubbing these days. That's exactly why the quality has gone down, due to these speed subs. Back in the day speed subs were not a thing. They popped up when legal subs started popping up, almost as a way to compete. I think the first big name speed sub group was horriblesubs, and they still exist today. Today f…

I'm talking about speedsubs as something distinct from rips of professional simulcasts; I don't consider those fansubs at all. Real fansub groups used to compete to be the first to release their translations, so you wouldn't have translation checks or as many editing passes. Nowadays, the simulcasts (and the rips thereof) are faster than any speedsub could possibly be, so the remaining fansubbers definitely put more…

> If you get actual fansubs these days instead of simulcast rips, you'll find they have high quality karaoke. I particularly remember the Railgun S karaoke which had realistic-looking lightning striking each syllable. And more recently, you may find the English translations have been worded so that you can sing along in time with the original song.

I think we're a bit late to be calling Railgun S "these days" these days...

Re: GitHub has received a DMCA from MPA about torrent tracker nyaa.si

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post #317

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Your last sentence is not true. The DMCA notice can be used for anything that the DMCA covers. One thing in the DMCA is: > linking users to an online location containing [...] infringing activity Extremely broad, but a link to a file sharing site with infringing content is also infringing. The DMCA notice can be used against the site containing the link.

How many degrees of separation is this true for?

That’s a good question. A strict reading would imply a single one, and would mean that only TPB would be infringing because they’re the ones “linking” to the content (they don’t host it). But it could easily be construed to mean a link to TPB is also infringing.

The problem with the DMCA is that it’s so broadly worded with not enough words defined. What is the definition of “linking”? After a quick skim, I couldn’t find it. Are only hyperlinks ( tags) counted? Or are magnet “links” counted (despite not taking you to the content, but telling you the hashes of the content)? There’s no clear answer.

So to answer your question: we don’t know.

Re: GitHub has received a DMCA from MPA about torrent tracker nyaa.si

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>The fansub quantity, for sure, has decreased, but not the quality. Speedsubs are no longer a concern for fansubbing these days. That's exactly why the quality has gone down, due to these speed subs. Back in the day speed subs were not a thing. They popped up when legal subs started popping up, almost as a way to compete. I think the first big name speed sub group was horriblesubs, and they still exist today. Today f…

> When's the last time you've seen high quality karaoke on fansubs? Literally this season, on DameDesuYo’s subtitles for Attack on Titan.

Nice!

Though, it is a bit unfair to take the most popular anime of the decade (by non-japanese watchers) and the highest rated anime of all time (by non-japanese watchers) as an example. I would be worried if there wasn't a quality fansub group covering it.

This was the norm for all anime once upon a time ago.

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