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Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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post #146

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When you read "inflammable", you can often, from the context, determine whether it means flammable or not. Sometimes you can't. The same applies to the OK sign. Flashing it surrounded by notorious racists after the 4chan hoax leaves no doubt about the intended meaning. Also, given that's it's now been coopted by nazis, you may want to be careful when flashing it if you want to avoid embarrassing ambiguities, yes. It…

I’m not disagreeing with your larger point, but FYI “inflammable” always means “easily catches fire” and never anything else.

Not a native speaker, and I thought it was one of these words that are their own antonym... Must have crossed wires :-)

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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>This pardon is strongly supported by James Ramsey, Peter Thiel, Miles Ehrlich, Amy Craig, Michael Ovitz, Palmer Luckey, Ryan Petersen, Ken Goldberg, Mike Jensen, Nate Schimmel, Trae Stephens, Blake Masters, and James Proud, among others. I guess it pays to have rich friends.

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Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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post #146

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When you read "inflammable", you can often, from the context, determine whether it means flammable or not. Sometimes you can't. The same applies to the OK sign. Flashing it surrounded by notorious racists after the 4chan hoax leaves no doubt about the intended meaning. Also, given that's it's now been coopted by nazis, you may want to be careful when flashing it if you want to avoid embarrassing ambiguities, yes. It…

> Flashing it surrounded by notorious racists after the 4chan hoax leaves no doubt about the intended meaning. Trolling is a meaning. I think in that situation it’s even more ambiguous since the “troll power” is so much greater then. I think it’s unambiguous that the user is a shit-stirrer certainly, probably an asshole. But not necessarily racist. Or no more so than your average run of the mill “everyone is racist s…

Even if it is meant as a troll, it is still a way to signal kinship, among folks whose views are not exactly a secret.

Haha, only serious...

Hence, ultimately, a racist (if layered) symbol in this context. It's not been flashed as a joke by non-racist people.

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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post #251

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Not to "both sides" this too much, because I do feel like there's a new, special level of corruption and self-dealing on display with this administration, but it's not uncommon for these guys to use pardons for personal gain or the benefits of their friends. For a little context and flavor, remember that Clinton pardoned some real winners on his last day too, including some guy who paid $200k to Hillary Clinton's bro…

> Not to "both sides" What do you think you just did?

hence the "...but".

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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post #4

>This pardon is strongly supported by James Ramsey, Peter Thiel, Miles Ehrlich, Amy Craig, Michael Ovitz, Palmer Luckey, Ryan Petersen, Ken Goldberg, Mike Jensen, Nate Schimmel, Trae Stephens, Blake Masters, and James Proud, among others. I guess it pays to have rich friends.

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Peter Thiel is a white nationalist? Interesting.

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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post #216

It's important to note the reason the President has the power to pardon anyone for any reason is it's one of the checks and balances, the Constitution is full of them. It's meant as a check to blunt overzealous prosecutions. Note that the President does not have the corresponding power to convict anyone. An interesting set of pardons was when Andrew Johnson pardoned all the rebels in the Confederacy, including Jeffer…

> it's one of the checks and balances On the judicial, so it would be great if it was also subject to Congressional approval. It would still fulfill its purpose.

As much as I disagree with some pardons, I think the negative effects of looping in Congress would outweigh the positive.

Sometimes pardons are politically unpopular even when they are right or justly merciful. Pardoning someone who embarrassed the government, for instance -- I can easily imagine a majority of Congress choosing to deny Chelsea Manning's commutation.

It's a bit of a parallel to the "better a hundred guilty go free, than one innocent suffer" philosophy that is supposed to rule the court system -- I'd rather the pardon be flawed in being too generous than too stingy with its mercy.

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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post #208

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Did you read the article? Are you opposed to the pardon of Davidson? President Trump commuted the sentence of Jaime A. Davidson. This commutation is supported by Mr. Davidson’s family and friends, Alice Johnson, and numerous others. In 1993, Mr. Davidson was convicted and sentenced to life imprisonment in relation to the murder of an undercover officer. Notably, witnesses who testified against Mr. Davidson later reca…

That speaks to a broken justice system; that conviction should be overturned by a court.

It speaks to the inherent flaws in any justice system. Presidential pardons are just one check against that. This lies squarely in line with what a presidential pardon is intended for.

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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Supposed dog whistles and the extreme desire to immediately label people based on innocuous gestures/words is the new norm within certain parts of the puritanical left. I never thought I would see the day. It is shocking that what was once the bastion of liberal thought and open-mindedness has become this hyper-judgemental, crucify-all-that-don't-bow-to-our-will movement. Gems of the left: Do you want to be on the wr…

Okay, I'll bite. >Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences! How is that false? You can say what you want, outside of threats and the like, but you also get to live with the outcome of saying whatever it is. I don't see how that's puritanical. It's a statement of fact. I can tell my boss to go f** himself. I can also get fired for doing that.

It is a trite stick hung above arguments that people want to silence before they even happen which makes it intellectually uninteresting and shallow. And more than anything it is used to further attempt to shame people. There is no compassion in the phrase.

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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Peter Thiel is a white nationalist? Interesting.

At least 75 million people are now white nationalists according to lefties.

They're even coming up with new terms. Terms like "multiracial whiteness" to fit the new narrative. Who knows how many lists I'm on now.

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