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Re: What Anime CLI?

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Post by numpad0 » Wed, Jan 20, 2021, 12:57 PM UTC

Blikkentrekker wrote: post #36

yreg wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>so it's really not about “animation from Japan” but about specific art styles, it seems. Yes, the one colloquially known as anime.

If only the reality weren't that most sources using that ridiculous term are highly inconsistent about the meaning and use it with two different meanings in the same paragraph. If “ moe art” be what one means, then simply use that word; — there is already a perfectly good word for it.

The truth is there’s no single concrete word exist for the category. Some suggest “moe art”, some say “anime”, some say “hentai”, etc. but each is interpreted differently and not inclusive nor popular.

Re: What Anime CLI?

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Post by nudpiedo » Wed, Jan 20, 2021, 1:08 PM UTC

Please change title to "Show HN:"

Re: What Anime CLI?

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Post by irevenko » Wed, Jan 20, 2021, 1:12 PM UTC

nudpiedo wrote: post #42

Please change title to "Show HN:"

why

Re: What Anime CLI?

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Post by chaorace » Wed, Jan 20, 2021, 1:14 PM UTC

sudosteph wrote: post #39

Cool! A few of my friends have dragged me back into watching anime, so anime related side projects are fresh on my mind. This seems like a great use case for a discord bot too. My big want is a fluff eliminator API. Like a service where people can define timestamps of where the actual good stuff is on a per-episode basis. Then a wrapper service that displays just the slimmed down episode portions chained together. Bu…

I suspect you could make some progress on a "fluff eliminator" by leveraging the existing "sakuga" database[1]. "Sakuga", in this context, meaning the well animated parts.

After all, there's a fairly strong correlation between high-importance scenes and overall framecount, which makes sense when you consider that frames are the main currency animation studios work with.

[1]: https://www.sakugabooru.com/post

Re: What Anime CLI?

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Post by soruly » Wed, Jan 20, 2021, 1:17 PM UTC

sudosteph wrote: post #39

Cool! A few of my friends have dragged me back into watching anime, so anime related side projects are fresh on my mind. This seems like a great use case for a discord bot too. My big want is a fluff eliminator API. Like a service where people can define timestamps of where the actual good stuff is on a per-episode basis. Then a wrapper service that displays just the slimmed down episode portions chained together. Bu…

There is a telegram bot that trim a particular anime secene from a specific moment. See more: https://github.com/soruly/trace.moe-media

Re: What Anime CLI?

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Post by chaorace » Wed, Jan 20, 2021, 1:20 PM UTC

irevenko wrote: post #43

nudpiedo wrote: post #42

Please change title to "Show HN:"

why

If you're posting your own pet projects, rules[1] state you are supposed to use the "Show HN" moniker. This is mostly a matter of consistent tagging and algorithmic binning, IIUC.

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html

Re: What Anime CLI?

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Post by karatinversion » Wed, Jan 20, 2021, 1:27 PM UTC

chaorace wrote: post #44

sudosteph wrote: post #39

Cool! A few of my friends have dragged me back into watching anime, so anime related side projects are fresh on my mind. This seems like a great use case for a discord bot too. My big want is a fluff eliminator API. Like a service where people can define timestamps of where the actual good stuff is on a per-episode basis. Then a wrapper service that displays just the slimmed down episode portions chained together. Bu…

I suspect you could make some progress on a "fluff eliminator" by leveraging the existing "sakuga" database[1]. "Sakuga", in this context, meaning the well animated parts. After all, there's a fairly strong correlation between high-importance scenes and overall framecount, which makes sense when you consider that frames are the main currency animation studios work with. [1]: https://www.sakugabooru.com/post

I don't think this approach would work. It's quite common to have long-ish dialogue scenes with lower-grade animation, and save the high-quality work on scenes with interesting things to look at happening on the screen.

As an example, the final conversation between Okabe and FB in Steins;Gate is really not good animation, but it is crucial to the plot, and the dialogue and voice acting still make it a very impactful scene.

Re: What Anime CLI?

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Jan 20, 2021, 1:41 PM UTC

sudosteph wrote: post #39

Cool! A few of my friends have dragged me back into watching anime, so anime related side projects are fresh on my mind. This seems like a great use case for a discord bot too. My big want is a fluff eliminator API. Like a service where people can define timestamps of where the actual good stuff is on a per-episode basis. Then a wrapper service that displays just the slimmed down episode portions chained together. Bu…

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Re: What Anime CLI?

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Post by chaorace » Wed, Jan 20, 2021, 1:46 PM UTC

karatinversion wrote: post #47

chaorace wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspect you could make some progress on a "fluff eliminator" by leveraging the existing "sakuga" database[1]. "Sakuga", in this context, meaning the well animated parts. After all, there's a fairly strong correlation between high-importance scenes and overall framecount, which makes sense when you consider that frames are the main currency animation studios work with. [1]: https://www.sakugabooru.com/post

I don't think this approach would work. It's quite common to have long-ish dialogue scenes with lower-grade animation, and save the high-quality work on scenes with interesting things to look at happening on the screen. As an example, the final conversation between Okabe and FB in Steins;Gate is really not good animation, but it is crucial to the plot, and the dialogue and voice acting still make it a very impactful…

You are, of course, correct. It's not exactly a bulletproof heuristic. At best, you'd probably only be able to identify likely filler episodes, as opposed to filler scenes.

A truly sophisticated approach capable of identifying filler scenes would probably involve machine learning using data that's not (to my knowledge) actually available to the public, like engagement/watchtime statistics.

Re: What Anime CLI?

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Post by astrange » Wed, Jan 20, 2021, 2:13 PM UTC

Blikkentrekker wrote: post #29

Xi_Bprime wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it really silly though? The author of trace.moe has to label and store each anime episode somewhere, and use CPU power provided for free to search through these indexes. Adding regular TV series and movies to this dataset could really dirty what gets returned when the service is just about letting someone find out what anime some screenshot is from. The FAQ says they've indexed most of post-2000 anime and very lit…

> Is it really silly though? The author of trace.moe has to label and store each anime episode somewhere, and use CPU power provided for free to search through these indexes. Adding regular TV series and movies to this dataset could really dirty what gets returned when the service is just about letting someone find out what anime some screenshot is from. I simply quæstion the sanity of delimiting the search to animat…

It's more like a production methodology than an art style. Art styles don't scale.