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Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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kazinator wrote: post #90
spacemanmatt wrote: post #87

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The white supremacy sign is a white power sign because white supremacists use it to signal each other. It is called a "dog whistle" because people like you cannot hear it accurately.

Whoa there, Roofus; have a Milk-Bone of information: "In 2017, users on the message-board site 4chan[40][41][42] aimed to convince the media and other people that the OK gesture was being used as a white power symbol. According to The Boston Globe, users on 4chan's /pol/ ("Politically Incorrect") board were instructed in February 2017 to "flood Twitter and other social media websites...claiming that the OK hand sign…

Yes, that is how a dog whistle works.

Why are you taking the words of 4chan trolls at face value?

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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Udik wrote: post #142
pygy_ wrote: post #120

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Getting photographed smiling next to two notorious white supremacists is already fishy. The picture was taken after the sign became a notorious rallying sign for racists. Do you really think that Luckey is aloof to the point of not not knowing what he's doing there? If you borrowed Occam's razor, you may need to sharpen it a bit before using it.

The "ok sign is a white power symbol" thing started as trolling on 4chan. It doesn't mean anything apart from being useful to infuriate other people. You're being trolled.

"It's just a joke bro" is what fascism has always done to mask its real intent.

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/7870768-never-believe-that-...

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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kenneth wrote: post #80
bobsil1 wrote: post #60

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Or powerful ones: https://twitter.com/rsingel/status/1351783622362030082

The "ok" hand sign isn't a white power sign just because some people have decided it to be. It's meant ok since as long as anyone can remember. I'm not willing to accept I can't say okay now because some liberal thinkers have decided that that's now become racist. People need to lighten up a bit and not make everything an affront.

The fact you’re trying to explain it away makes you sound like a Nazi.

/s

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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Post by refurb »

spacemanmatt wrote: post #87
kenneth wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "ok" hand sign isn't a white power sign just because some people have decided it to be. It's meant ok since as long as anyone can remember. I'm not willing to accept I can't say okay now because some liberal thinkers have decided that that's now become racist. People need to lighten up a bit and not make everything an affront.

The white supremacy sign is a white power sign because white supremacists use it to signal each other. It is called a "dog whistle" because people like you cannot hear it accurately.

The reason you believe so strongly it’s a white supremacy symbol is because it fits, no reinforces, your political views.

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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t-writescode wrote: post #100
reducesuffering wrote: post #22

So when we do get rid of presidential pardons? We've seen "an American president commutes the sentence of a person convicted by a jury of lying to shield that very president." ~Mitt Romney And we've seen pardons put up for sale.[0] Is the US a nation of laws and due process or a Banana Republic where anyone can be acquitted of anything? [0] https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/17/us/politics/trump-pardons...

These aren't problems with the power, they're problems with people that abuse the power. We've had presidential pardons for centuries, and they are both a carry-over from the time of kings, and they could arguably serve as a short-circuit against injustice at the hand of the legislature. Not everything illegal is wrong. Not everyone in prison is serving a just sentence, no matter what the legal system declares it to…

After the last 4 years, maybe it is time to realise that a working democracy can not rely on the assumption that those in power will just use their powers responsibly and honourably, and that "checks and balances" need to actually have the ability to both check and balance.

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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Veen wrote: post #84
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #32

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Not only this, but Mr. Levandowski has made it clear he thinks his car failing to cause the first self-driving fatality would mean they were behind . The man believes manslaughter is the cost of doing business for innovation. He should be in prison for much more than he got.

Although it might be tempting, you can’t really send people to prison for disagreeing with your ethics.

Reckless endangerment is a thing, you know.

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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Post by user-the-name »

WalterBright wrote: post #103
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #32

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Not only this, but Mr. Levandowski has made it clear he thinks his car failing to cause the first self-driving fatality would mean they were behind . The man believes manslaughter is the cost of doing business for innovation. He should be in prison for much more than he got.

The first death in a powered airplane was where one of the Wrights crashed carrying a passenger, and he died. Should the airplane have never been invented and the Wrights jailed for trying?

Where do you get this "the airplane should never have been invented" from? Nobody has made an argument even remotely like that.

What was said, at the most, was that maybe the Wright brothers should have had to face consequences for endangering that passenger. That maybe they acted recklessly.

I don't think that carrying that particular passenger was the one crucial step towards inventing airplanes.

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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Post by jfk13 »

t-writescode wrote: post #100
reducesuffering wrote: post #22

So when we do get rid of presidential pardons? We've seen "an American president commutes the sentence of a person convicted by a jury of lying to shield that very president." ~Mitt Romney And we've seen pardons put up for sale.[0] Is the US a nation of laws and due process or a Banana Republic where anyone can be acquitted of anything? [0] https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/17/us/politics/trump-pardons...

These aren't problems with the power, they're problems with people that abuse the power. We've had presidential pardons for centuries, and they are both a carry-over from the time of kings, and they could arguably serve as a short-circuit against injustice at the hand of the legislature. Not everything illegal is wrong. Not everyone in prison is serving a just sentence, no matter what the legal system declares it to…

If the argument here is essentially that we should trust the president to know better than the legislature and courts, why don't we just go with absolute dictatorship for all purposes?

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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Post by refurb »

pygy_ wrote: post #144
Udik wrote: post #142

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The "ok sign is a white power symbol" thing started as trolling on 4chan. It doesn't mean anything apart from being useful to infuriate other people. You're being trolled.

Notwithstanding its origins, it was subsequently adopted by racists as a rallying sign. Context matters.

Not going to lie but it’s apparent you will see racism wherever you want to despite the evidence.

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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Post by snakeboy »

kenneth wrote: post #80
bobsil1 wrote: post #60

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Or powerful ones: https://twitter.com/rsingel/status/1351783622362030082

The "ok" hand sign isn't a white power sign just because some people have decided it to be. It's meant ok since as long as anyone can remember. I'm not willing to accept I can't say okay now because some liberal thinkers have decided that that's now become racist. People need to lighten up a bit and not make everything an affront.

In reality, these days -- along with most other so-called dog whistles it's quite effective in trolling reactionaries on the left. That's all. Everyone is in on the joke.

If I'm Don Jr. or Charlie Kirk or whoever, my prerogative is to invoke liberal "tears" so yeah I'm gonna use all the dog whistle words like "thugs" and flash the OK symbol, because it scores them points with the right, multiplied by the amount of outrage it causes from the left.

Of course this dynamic only really exists in political contexts. Elsewhere it just means "OK" as always. However, it would be equally absurd to assume that politicians haven't caught on to public perception of this kind of stuff and are exploiting it for their advantage (via democrats clutching their pearls and republicans trying to induce said pearl-clutching)

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