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Re: IPFS Support in Brave

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Post by uniqueid »

I know little about this protocol.

It seems to make things better like client privacy, server versioning and censorship of good actors.

As usual, nobody bothered to worry about problems it worsens. Do we want more anonymity and less censorship for bad actors?

Good and bad may be subjective, but nearly everyone looks at that issue pragmatically in some instances (to pick an unlikely example: some demented billionaire buying nukes), and in tech we seem incapable of accounting for that.

Re: IPFS Support in Brave

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Post by justsee »

anderspitman wrote: post #322
feross wrote: post #170

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Also, they integrate my WebTorrent project ( https://webtorrent.io ) so that .torrent files and magnet: links just work out-of-the-box. https://support.brave.com/hc/en-us/articles/360035025231-Wha...

Man I recently "gave up" and switched from FF back to chrome for performance reasons. Might be time to try Brave

Brave's noticeably faster than Chrome (because of course it renders less stuff with the low-level content blocking) and on Apple silicon with the new arm64 build the rendering speed is officially ridiculous.

Most sites now feel like they're some hyper-optimised, next.js static site generated build even if they're not.

The web experience is not unlike that first time you switched from spinning platters to SSDs.

Re: IPFS Support in Brave

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Post by scns »

autocorr wrote: post #175
rmm wrote: post #154

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For me, somewhat embarrassingly, the one killer feature is the "Send to Device" feature from firefox on iOS. Being able to send links to browser for later reviewing is super useful. Not sure why Edge or other browsers don't implement

This is a killer feature for me too. Works great between all my devices across Linux, Android, and iOS. If I see an interesting article I just ship it off to my desktop to read later instead of keeping the tab open for days on my phone.

Have you tried KDE connect?

You can share links and files with any connected device. Use it as a remote control for music players and presentations. Ring your phone from your computer to find it and more.

https://kdeconnect.kde.org/

(edit: add second paragraph and link)

Re: IPFS Support in Brave

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Post by stkdump »

al_chemist wrote: post #206
aarpmcgee wrote: post #192

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I don't see anything in that post about suppressing speech—can you help me see it? The main bullet points in the article don't seem to have anything to do with suppressing speech (unless that is how you are framing the bullet point which reads: "Turn on by default the tools to amplify factual voices over disinformation."

It starts with title "We need more than deplatforming" which means "deplatforming is good, but it's not enough". noun: deplatforming; noun: de-platforming the action or practice of preventing someone holding views regarded as unacceptable or offensive from contributing to a forum or debate, especially by blocking them on a particular website. It continues with "Changing these dangerous dynamics requires more than jus…

Freedom of speech should not guarantee 'right to global reach'. People should be allowed to say what they think to an amount of people who they can have personal relationships with, their neighbors, relatively close colleagues and similar. Deplatforming should not take this away, it should just take the biggest megaphone away mankind invented to date.

Re: IPFS Support in Brave

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Post by zoobab »

agilob wrote: post #40

Mozilla promised us Tor integration, IPFS integration and more private browsing by default. Brave delivered it all.

http://zoobab.wikidot.com/elinks-with-bittorrent-support

Boycott Firefox, Switch to Brave, my browser had Bittorrent support 16 years ago

In 2005, Elinks browser had built-in Torrent support. In 2021, Firefox still does not have built-in Torrent support. In 2021, Brave has built-in Torrent support.

Why Firefox has not focussed on decentralisation and uncensorability for the last 16 years?

Maybe because they work for their grand masters (Google and other GAFAMs) who want power, and don't want decentralization?

Re: IPFS Support in Brave

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Post by sebmellen »

AgentME wrote: post #326
sebmellen wrote: post #277

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Hey Jonathan, big fan of Brave, and I meant no disrespect with my comment. Serious question — how does BAT distribution work with ETH fees being in the same range now? Have you considered doing atomic swaps with a network like Stellar for a low fee transaction environment? They have a Metamask alternative called Albedo that you could probably effectively integrate into Brave. I've worked a lot with Stellar and would…

Not him, but there is progress in the Ethereum ecosystem on multiple fronts (in a way that's lacking in Bitcoin), so following that progress seems viable. There are working ERC-20-compatible layer 2 low-fee/instant transfer systems on Ethereum that Brave could use, and Ethereum does have plans being developed for sharding layer 1 transactions which will reduce fees for normal transactions. (Disclaimer: I'm a bit bias…

Always keen to see what's going on in the ETH ecosystem, and I do agree with you on it probably being more meaningfully decentralized.

That said, I was more asking what they're doing right now than what they plan to do in the future (I'm fully aware of ETH 2.0 and all).

Re: IPFS Support in Brave

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Post by kortilla »

uniqueid wrote: post #341

I know little about this protocol. It seems to make things better like client privacy, server versioning and censorship of good actors. As usual, nobody bothered to worry about problems it worsens. Do we want more anonymity and less censorship for bad actors? Good and bad may be subjective, but nearly everyone looks at that issue pragmatically in some instances (to pick an unlikely example: some demented billionaire…

The people who produce anti-censorship tools usually philosophically believe that it’s not the job of a communications tool to enforce acceptable speech.

It’s sort of like complaining that making it easier to vote brings the average voter education level down. The people making it easier are certainly aware but don’t think it’s right to make it more difficult to vote.

Re: IPFS Support in Brave

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Post by hkt »

CyberRabbi wrote: post #304
jhardy54 wrote: post #298

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In case you're unfamiliar: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance Unfortunately part of making things "open and accessible to all" means revoking access to people who would weaponize the internet to contradict those goals. A tolerant society means no tolerance for terrorists.

If you can effectively cast your political opponents as “terrorists” you can rationalize denying them all sorts of rights and still get to call yourself a supporter of human rights. They did a similar thing during the Iraq war.

Iraq seems a little different to an armed invasion of.. the capitol building. No?

Re: IPFS Support in Brave

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Post by fsflover »

electriclove wrote: post #316
abdulmuhaimin wrote: post #238

Brave is becoming more and more compelling. How I wish they develop their own engine(I know, tough task), or at least use Firefox's. Chromium based browser is really a deal breaker for me

Why is a Chromium based browser a deal breaker?

With Chromium, Google is defining the web standards like Internet Explorer did, because it's a monopolist.

Re: IPFS Support in Brave

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Post by kortilla »

autocorr wrote: post #186
undefined1 wrote: post #99

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Mozilla seems to be moving in the other direction now. "We need more than deplatforming" https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2021/01/08/we-need-more-than-d...

Taken out of context that quote would imply "we need even more serious censorship", but admits that deplatforming a certain world leader is a not a real solution and that these actions that should be taken: > Reveal who is paying for advertisements, how much they are paying and who is being targeted. > Commit to meaningful transparency of platform algorithms so we know how and what content is being amplified, to whom…

> Turn on by default the tools to amplify factual voices over disinformation

It’s horrifying that they think this is even possible. Some of the worst political divides are over which set of facts to emphasize (children in cages vs children separated from traffickers) or are speculation on ongoing events (Russian pee tape, Trump is a Russian asset, Russia stole the election, etc).

“Amplify factual voices” just sounds like more echo chamber bullshit where you follow your politically aligned fact sources like Twitter.

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