I prefer the Web over the Fediverse. Blogs +RSS/microformats/Webmention are decentralized, and with much better support and accessibility. ActivityPub seems to me an overcomplicated restrictive implementation of blogging.
What do you define as the Fediverse? My understanding of the term is that RSS & Webmentions are part of the Fediverse. Email is probably the best-known part of the Fediverse. ActivityPub is just a new/upcoming technology that's as much a part of the Web as RSS. Not everything in the Fediverse is part of the Web: email, mastodon & matrix are examples that exist outside of the Web (though mastodon is mostly Web-based,…
Local rules instead of global censorship
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Re: Local rules instead of global censorship
#212For the same reason, smallish countries seem to be much more democratic and closer to the people (e.g., Switzerland). The "sweet spot" seems to be between 5 and 10 million people maybe?
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Empathy works as long as you don't create a us vs them situation. > The tyranny of the majority Has that ever happened or is that just an argument to let politicians keep their power?
> Has that ever happened or is that just an argument to let politicians keep their power? Yes? American history is full of situations like Jim Crow, redlining, anti lgbtq legislation, lack of support for people with disabilities, criminalization of people experiencing homelessness, etc.
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> Has that ever happened or is that just an argument to let politicians keep their power? Yes? American history is full of situations like Jim Crow, redlining, anti lgbtq legislation, lack of support for people with disabilities, criminalization of people experiencing homelessness, etc.
All of those were done by representatives and not the electorate though?
If you'd like, I'm sure there are referendums and initiatives that are directly voted on that I could dig up. A quick search in my local area says WA initiative 192 was a case where the majority chose to deplete a shared resource (salmon) and failed to protect minority interests.
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Yeah like I suggested, it seems to be a convex benefit curve. Removing the central element entirely seems to be the implication, but where does it stop? At each level, you lose the benefits of a central structure - such as coordination, support, management of risk etc. Sure, one can get rid of the EU. But you'll notice that most countries actually don't want this - especially Euro-critical countries in eastern Europe…
> Euro-critical countries in eastern Europe profit hugely from the EU and would never seriously consider going back to the previous state of things. The elites of those countries benefit way more from the influx of euros, some breadcrumbs are given to the people and then everyone stays under the illusion they are better off. The central bank keeps pushing money, Brussels and Berlin get happy about it until some exter…
Are you saying these countries would be better off outside of the EU? Like, say, Turkey? Not sure I get your point.
> Sorry for the stereotyping, but this is such a German comment and so short-sighted that if I get into a long response to it my blood will boil a little. Instead, let me refer you to https://nntaleb.medium.com/lebanon-from-ponzi-to-antifragili... who maybe can get the point across better than me.
Not sure if I am going to read a whole article about Lebanon from Taleb, but I take you'd prefer a Grexit early on instead of the drudgery that is occurring now?
You know, at the time this was often discussed. The honest truth is that no one really knows, but everyone is convinced they are right.
It's really where two understandings of reality met.
On the one hand, you had people who believe (like you I'd take it) that economic systems can use reform and a collapsing exchange rate / exports to improve their lot with separation from the Euro.
On the other hand, you had people saying that this would, at best, eliminate decades of economic growth, and at worst, lead to explicable suffering and a mass exodus. All the while cementing the country in a low-income periphery position by virtue of being dominated by the EU central bank actions.
People who actually remember the pre Euro times will remember this situation from countries dependent on the Deutsche Mark, and will also remember that the Euro was - for that reason - France's condition to allow German reunification.
I guess I never resolved in which camp I fall. On the one hand, no non-EU peripheral country really fills me with confidence that this is a good position. On the other hand, perhaps Brexit will eventually show that such a niche can be found.
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#216Earlier quoted context omitted.
What do you define as the Fediverse? My understanding of the term is that RSS & Webmentions are part of the Fediverse. Email is probably the best-known part of the Fediverse. ActivityPub is just a new/upcoming technology that's as much a part of the Web as RSS. Not everything in the Fediverse is part of the Web: email, mastodon & matrix are examples that exist outside of the Web (though mastodon is mostly Web-based,…
Where do you get that definition from? I've never seen email or RSS feeds to be considered part of the fediverse. In fact I've only seen the term being used for ActivityPub and Diaspora.
It is a portmanteau of federated universe, and as such encompasses the full universe of technologies old & new that are considered "federated".
Federation is a system whereby you sign up to a SaaS, and can then interact with other users of other SaaS due to each of the services synchronising data via a unified protocol. Email is the best-known of these; SMTP is the protocol.
RSS is a greyer area. The nature of RSS (heavy on subscription, lighter on publishing) makes it less like other tech in the fediverse which are heavier on the publishing/sending/broadcasting side. Given the prevalence of self-hosting, it could be closer to being classified as properly decentralized except that there is a clear server/client distinction. It's somewhat subjective: either way if RSS (& WebMentions) are considered outside of the Fediverse, that's only because their paradigm isn't compatible with federation (making the original comment about Fediverse competing with things like RSS/WebMentions moot).
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While I'm personally a big fan of zomia , it should be noted that it's received a lot of criticism and has been notoriously hard to operationalize. There are probably less controversial examples to use here.
(as you might be able to tell) this is of great interest to me so if you have any reading recommendations I'd appreciate them (thanks). some of the people (other than Scott) who influenced my thinking on this would be: Berger: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_L._Berger (especially http://perflensburg.se/Berger%20social-construction-of-reali... ) Jacques Ellul https://archive.org/details/JacquesEllulTheTechnologica…
Caroline Humphrey also gave a talk [1] that I've wanted to cite, but haven't found an excuse for. She's not against the idea, but she brings up a lot of issues with applying it to areas like like Tyva/Khövsgöl, as these were clearly state-spaces despite fitting all the other characteristics. She runs into basically the same criticism as Tenzin in that zomia doesn't encapsulate precisely what we intuitively understand as people about these marginal border spaces.
[1] https://www.researchgate.net/publication/297392497_IS_ZOMIA_...
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> Euro-critical countries in eastern Europe profit hugely from the EU and would never seriously consider going back to the previous state of things. The elites of those countries benefit way more from the influx of euros, some breadcrumbs are given to the people and then everyone stays under the illusion they are better off. The central bank keeps pushing money, Brussels and Berlin get happy about it until some exter…
> The elites of those countries benefit way more from the influx of euros, some breadcrumbs are given to the people and then everyone stays under the illusion they are better off. The central bank keeps pushing money, Brussels and Berlin get happy about it until some external crisis show that the periphery countries never actually changed their ways and now are even more fragile to external shocks and even more depen…
Free flow of people and goods? Sure, excellent. A unified body of regulatory agencies to coordinate development of standards? Yeah, ok. A whole political-bureaucratic system that removes autonomy from participating countries and does not allow members to get into bilateral agreements outside of the block? Hell no!
Were the EU something along the lines of NAFTA or Mercosur, I'd be 129% behind it. But this ever-growing monster that it has become, no way. To me the EU is becoming Germany's revenge for losing two wars: they failed by military force, so now they are taking it over by economic domination.
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Yes. You have to be a Finnish citizen with no income to qualify. Everyone not participating in the capitalist economy (by owning business or being employed at one) is essentially a government/military reserve employee on indefinite paid leave receiving a budget that covers virtually all living expenses to quite a reasonable standard. And it's baseline , every citizen eligible, other obligations withstanding. You'd ha…
>not participating in the capitalist economy Does this definition include people who actively refusing to be employed, or is there any kind of law obligations to work?
The "catches" to everything being free: - Cannot save any money whatsoever. As with all government budgets, what you don't spend is deducted from the next check. - Can receive a maximum of around $50/month from anywhere else. Anything above that is deducted from the next check. - Cannot own much property. They want you to sell everything and live off that first. - Have to report all your assets and provide bank statements to all accounts. - Have to be prepared to fight the bureaucracy. They make mistakes, and usually against your interest (we won't pay because X). Complaining has always solved all issues for me, but it takes two weeks minimum to get an answer. If you didn't file everything correctly two weeks before you needed it, you might go half a month with no money until it resolves. Unless you show up at the office crying. Then they'll help you on the spot. Information doesn't flow between departments; You have to provide everything any department asks regardless if they have your info elsewhere in the system. Often they require you apply for a different benefit first, even if everybody knows you don't qualify; They require the rejection to proceed. Add another two weeks.
And the real bummer: - If you work, everything stops. So you can't work part-time. You have to earn at least as much as the welfare for working to make any economic sense. It's annoying. I'd like to work occasionally, but there's no point. The choice is between doing nothing and getting X, or spending all your time and energy working 8 hours a day, five days a week and getting X+1. Some people go crazy without jobs; I'm creative and self-driven so I make all kinds of stuff by myself. It's pretty neat.
And there's always cash. What they can't track they can't take away... Gifts best given in cash. Unused budget best withdrawn from an ATM and stashed in the matress. God UBI would do so much good here. People stuck in this "welfare trap" could actually work a little to improve their standing.
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Empathy works as long as you don't create a us vs them situation. > The tyranny of the majority Has that ever happened or is that just an argument to let politicians keep their power?
Are you asking if minorities have ever been oppressed by majorities? Does the Holocaust or Jim Crow count?
Americans never voted on segregation. So we'll never know how much sooner black Americans would've been welcomed into society if all Americans had equal power.