It's a stupid industry, populated by even more stupid clients.
GitHub has received a DMCA from MPA about torrent tracker nyaa.si
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Re: GitHub has received a DMCA from MPA about torrent tracker nyaa.si
#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
This has been an issue, and has been lobbied for, for at least two decades. The law may do us favors one day but that day is far into the future.
Has there been even a single move away from ever more draconian copyright? Just the last budget bill had provisions for more criminal enforcement of copyright and with bipartisan support. If this is a slippery slope it's a steady and worryingly unstoppable one so far. Civil disobedience through distributed systems seems like the only answer right now. Your legislators can't hear you over the sound of millions of doll…
And Microsoft does donate to all the ones you don't like, so on this theory they'd be doing GitHub's bidding.
Re: GitHub has received a DMCA from MPA about torrent tracker nyaa.si
#163We need a bonfire of these rentseekers
As someone who makes money selling software, I think we should abolish copyright and let these companies give contracts to their users which bind them not to share the songs and movies they bought.
Then it's up to the company to report when actual violation is occurring and bring, in a fair court case, whether a certain user shared the material or not, breaching their contract with the company.
If you access material shared breaching a contract you're not doing anything illegal.
If you're selling passively too many copies that enforcing all these contracts is too problematic or expensive, you can consider it a natural market tax on the huge profits you're making.
We shouldn't give shortcuts for companies to enforce their copyright, they have this problem specifically because they are the richest 1%.
Re: GitHub has received a DMCA from MPA about torrent tracker nyaa.si
#164This site is mainly used to share Japanese media. The streaming services have really dropped the ball in this area. They either don't simulcast to other parts of the world (netflix), offer terrible subtitles that are worse than fan translations (netflix, crunchyroll), or just plain never release content for international audiences. I pay for every relevant streaming service I can, and even when I can access legal, of…
This is true sometimes, but usually it's not true because nobody does fansubs anymore. Most subtitled torrents are copies of the official subtitles.
(Also you can't judge a translation unless you speak Japanese.)
Re: GitHub has received a DMCA from MPA about torrent tracker nyaa.si
#165Earlier quoted context omitted.
Microsoft would never do that unless their hands were forced. Too much potential business with them. We could try forcing their hands by removing all our code from Github?
The occasional prominent developer has left GitHub for GitLab, but it hasn’t made much of a difference. I don’t see organizations moving off GitHub if they’re already using it. I think GitHub is independent enough from Microsoft that the two could take different stances on these disputes. Certainly I’d expect a DMCA takedown of content on a Microsoft service like OneDrive to be ultimately handled differently from a t…
Re: GitHub has received a DMCA from MPA about torrent tracker nyaa.si
#166Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sooner or later, one of these projects will counter-sue for misuse of copyright. Misuse of copyright is when a copyright holder attempts to illegitimately expand the rights granted to them by their copyright in some work (in this case, quashing competition from distribution channels that are used to distribute unrelated copyrighted material). The normal punishment for misuse of copyright is the rendering of the copyr…
I’m not a lawyer but this feels like a fantasy to me. It seems crazy the MPA would take such a risk if they thought it was likely.
I once sat in a meeting where some VP at a major client asked (because they were technically daft) if it was possible -in not so many words- DDOS google because "they (google) have all this infringing content on their site"
I had to tell me boss "is anyone going to explain to that guy that what he's describing is A. not realistic and B. not legal?"
Re: GitHub has received a DMCA from MPA about torrent tracker nyaa.si
#167Re: GitHub has received a DMCA from MPA about torrent tracker nyaa.si
#168Earlier quoted context omitted.
Microsoft would never do that unless their hands were forced. Too much potential business with them. We could try forcing their hands by removing all our code from Github?
> Microsoft would never do that unless their hands were forced. Too much potential business with them. The upside of Microsoft's acquisition of GitHub (and the entire strategy that resulted in the acquisition) is that Microsoft has created incentives for themselves to have GitHub being regarded as a truly open platform that you can depend on. Having repositories exposed to flimsy DMCA takedowns is not part of that. M…
Microsoft should be paying us to use github.
Re: GitHub has received a DMCA from MPA about torrent tracker nyaa.si
#169Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can still download the zip file of the repository through archive.org. And there is no direct link (took a quick look) to copyrighted content in the source code. If they shutdown the main site, without a data backup, the code is useless. Users will have to re-upload and re-seed the torrents they have.
Tangentially, I'm interested in the concept of the torrent data moving into something somewhat indestructible by also highly available, such as the bitcoin blockchain. Your torrent site then "mounts" the blockchain, scanning the chain for the torrent data (magnet URIs) necessary to bootstrap a corpus.
Either of the solutions, will let seeders and leechers communicate in a decentralized way, but if there is no one with the original files, it won't work.
So, in this case, nyaa facilitates the seeder/leecher communication, but if the main site is shutdown and users who have the files are not willing to seed the torrents again then the source code is useless.
Crawling bittorrent's DHT is mentioned in this paper [1]:
This paper presents two kinds of attacks based on crawl-ing the DHTs used for distributed BitTorrent tracking. First, we show how pirates can use crawling to rebuild BitTorrent search engines just a few hours after they are shut down (crawling for fun). Second, we show how content owners can use related techniques to monitor pi-rates’ behavior in preparation for legal attacks and negate any perceived anonymity of the decentralized BitTorrent architecture (crawling for profit)
[1]: https://www.usenix.org/legacy/event/woot10/tech/full_papers/...
Re: GitHub has received a DMCA from MPA about torrent tracker nyaa.si
#170> Specifically, at the URL, the Repository hosts and offers for download the Project, which, when downloaded, provides the downloader everything necessary to launch and host a “clone” infringing website identical to Nyaa.si (and, thus, engage in massive infringement of copyrighted motion pictures and television shows). I'd like for Motion Picture Association to publish a step-by-step guide on how I can engage in mass…
>> The identified files and code are preconfigured to find and provide infringing copies of our Members’ film and tv content to Nyaa.si users in violation of copyright law.
It's one thing to host software that can be used for this. It's another to host software specifically configured for it. Still might be legal. I wanted to see what the linked configuration files actually contain, but they've been taken down.
It still smacks of going after the tools rather than the infringers.