Feels like a repeat of the DeCSS debacle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeCSS
On that note, wow do I feel old...
GitHub has received a DMCA from MPA about torrent tracker nyaa.si
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Re: GitHub has received a DMCA from MPA about torrent tracker nyaa.si
#132Can someone knowledgeable explain to me how a tracker source code violates DMCA? What's next, hard disk manufacturers? Internet providers?
> What's next, hard disk manufacturers? Internet providers? You're joking, but in some countries there are taxes on blank recording media: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_copying_levy
Some countries including the USA, for those who haven't bothered reading the link.
This is why decades ago you could buy blank CDR media designated for "music" at a slightly higher price. They are identical to "computer" CDRs, but the seller pays a fee to the copyright office.
Re: GitHub has received a DMCA from MPA about torrent tracker nyaa.si
#133The MPA seems to be getting braver with these takedowns, considering how quickly the youtube-dl one got flipped around. This one seems particularly shaky as you could not use it to explicitly download anything - rather to host data of your own (with no explicit requirement for it to be unauthorized copyright violation). EDIT: perhaps just a ploy to unmask the authors of the torrent site?
Sooner or later, one of these projects will counter-sue for misuse of copyright. Misuse of copyright is when a copyright holder attempts to illegitimately expand the rights granted to them by their copyright in some work (in this case, quashing competition from distribution channels that are used to distribute unrelated copyrighted material). The normal punishment for misuse of copyright is the rendering of the copyr…
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Re: GitHub has received a DMCA from MPA about torrent tracker nyaa.si
#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
Please don't, however, baselessly propagate their claims. As far as I can tell it's bullshit. The source code may be for nyaa.si but it just contains normal torrent tracker code. Take a look at the files listed: > https://github.com/nyaadevs/nyaa/blob/master/utils/api_info.... Online here: https://gitlab.com/SIGBUS/nyaa/-/blob/master/utils/api_info.... See anything remotely suggestive? Not I. > https://github.com/nya…
They DCMA doesn't say that the repo was used to host copyrighted material: > The identified files and code are preconfigured to find and provide infringing copies of our Members’ film and tv content to Nyaa.si users in violation of copyright law. They are basically saying "this is the codebase for nyaa.si, and as proof here are a bunch of files that prove that assertion". What I don't understand is the legal grounds…
"preconfigured to find and provide infringing copies" goes way beyond a mere claim of being the codebase.
Re: GitHub has received a DMCA from MPA about torrent tracker nyaa.si
#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
> What's next, hard disk manufacturers? Internet providers? You're joking, but in some countries there are taxes on blank recording media: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_copying_levy
And in the Netherlands those used to make sense. As downloading copyrighted material was legal for personal use https://mashable.com/2014/04/10/downloading-pirated-content-...
I think the basis is that you're still allowed to make private copies of CDs/DVDs/etc pretty much throughout EU.
Re: GitHub has received a DMCA from MPA about torrent tracker nyaa.si
#136The MPA seems to be getting braver with these takedowns, considering how quickly the youtube-dl one got flipped around. This one seems particularly shaky as you could not use it to explicitly download anything - rather to host data of your own (with no explicit requirement for it to be unauthorized copyright violation). EDIT: perhaps just a ploy to unmask the authors of the torrent site?
Sooner or later, one of these projects will counter-sue for misuse of copyright. Misuse of copyright is when a copyright holder attempts to illegitimately expand the rights granted to them by their copyright in some work (in this case, quashing competition from distribution channels that are used to distribute unrelated copyrighted material). The normal punishment for misuse of copyright is the rendering of the copyr…
I think the assumption is true in this case, that "their clients are invincible / above the law." - they can lobby to create the laws themselves (which is what they did to create the DMCA in the first place) so they are in effect "above the law"
Re: GitHub has received a DMCA from MPA about torrent tracker nyaa.si
#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
Doubt, there would be no reason for it to be copyrighted material, it would just be a torrent test
Couldn't the same thing have been said for the problematic youtube-dl test case?
Not exactly. They had a test that saves a file from YouTube that was "protected" with some tech a lawyer might quality as DRM. YouTube only uses that thing for copyrighted materials.
Torrents don't have anything like that. You don't have to deal with anything copyrighted to test any related stuff, be it client, tracker, or web server.
Re: GitHub has received a DMCA from MPA about torrent tracker nyaa.si
#138Can someone knowledgeable explain to me how a tracker source code violates DMCA? What's next, hard disk manufacturers? Internet providers?
It is stated in the complaint: > Specifically, at the URL, the Repository hosts and offers for download the Project, which, when downloaded, provides the downloader everything necessary to launch and host a “clone” infringing website identical to Nyaa.si (and, thus, engage in massive infringement of copyrighted motion pictures and television shows). This is not a generic BitTorrent tracker. This is source code for du…
It's a torrent index with search, categories, user management and so on. I don't see how I can't use this for hosting Linux ISOs by just renaming the categories.
Re: GitHub has received a DMCA from MPA about torrent tracker nyaa.si
#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
A music colossus already tried this, and Tidal landed with a thud. People are loyal to artists, not labels, and artists change labels on a fairly regular basis. It's not like TV where shows generally live and die on a single channel, and maybe get salvaged onto a second one.
And if not loyal to an artist it is a genera or station. Classical music listeners can get Bach from a number of different artists, if a few are missing they typically can get by with the others. If someone puts a station on Pandora it will be a long time before they notice that something is missing. With TV there is a long standing character development to get people interested in something in particular. With music…
Even loyalty to an artist is overrated. Tidal had exclusivity with some of the biggest names in music with dedicated fanbases and this mostly got people to sign up for the one-month free trial and cancel.
Beyonce and Jay-Z moved back onto Spotify. This is a model that is proven not to work.
Re: GitHub has received a DMCA from MPA about torrent tracker nyaa.si
#140Torrents were great threat in past years, but now in world with streaming services like Netflix, Amazon Prime,Hulu and all others torrent is not a serious threat. So,that's a baseless argument, Its like don't sell knives they can be used to murder. Torrents are also useful for many others purposes, like distribution of big opensource software, downloading files with unreliable connection and slow speed, to distribute…
Until you are paying for 10 distinct services, and the music colossi start to create services of their own. Who you gonna call? Plex+sonarr
Maybe unpopular opinion: you don't need to pay for 10 distinct services at the same time. Like, there's a show that I want to watch on Crave, I pay for a month and watch it - along with other stuff that might interest me. Then there's something else on Starz - I do the same.
2 concurrent streaming service is good enough for most people, I think, specially considering most streaming services add full seasons at once, instead of weekly episodes. And even in that case, you can just wait a couple months until the whole show is available, and spend 10 bucks for a month's subscription.