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Capitol Attack Was Months in the Making on Facebook

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Re: Capitol Attack Was Months in the Making on Facebook

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Post by marcusverus »

ardy42 wrote: post #8
trident5000 wrote: post #4

Still in the app stores I see.

> Still in the app stores I see. That's because this stuff was a tiny fraction of the activity on Facebook (it's HUGE, and still mostly for baby pictures), but a substantial fraction of the content on Parler and Gab (they're tiny , and mostly for the stuff that Facebook and Twitter ban). A lot of people who object to Parler's treatment want this conceived as a simple binary, but it's more of a matter of degree an pro…

>That's because this stuff was a tiny fraction of the activity on Facebook (it's HUGE, and still mostly for baby pictures), but a substantial fraction of the content on Parler and Gab (they're tiny, and mostly for the stuff that Facebook and Twitter ban).

I would love to see a source for this claim.

Re: Capitol Attack Was Months in the Making on Facebook

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Post by high_derivative »

lawnchair_larry wrote: post #17
seattle_spring wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It really doesn't, but ok. Facebook has a huge moderation team. Just because some things get through that cause damage doesn't put it in the same category as a platform specifically built to enable terrorism.

Parler is in the same category as facebook and twitter. It’s amazing that people have been gaslit to believe that Parler was intended for or mostly used by extremists. More amazing that people keep repeating this authoritatively when they clearly had no exposure to the service.

It's certainly been interesting to see this narrative be manufactured and adopted within a very short amount of time and now accepted as truth widely.

Re: Capitol Attack Was Months in the Making on Facebook

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Post by jnwatson »

ardy42 wrote: post #8
trident5000 wrote: post #4

Still in the app stores I see.

> Still in the app stores I see. That's because this stuff was a tiny fraction of the activity on Facebook (it's HUGE, and still mostly for baby pictures), but a substantial fraction of the content on Parler and Gab (they're tiny , and mostly for the stuff that Facebook and Twitter ban). A lot of people who object to Parler's treatment want this conceived as a simple binary, but it's more of a matter of degree an pro…

The same argument was made for Backpage. Only a small percentage of overall transactions were related to prostitution. The founder ended up in jail regardless.

Re: Capitol Attack Was Months in the Making on Facebook

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Post by trident5000 »

JMTQp8lwXL wrote: post #13
trident5000 wrote: post #4

Still in the app stores I see.

I'm sure public support for removing Facebook from app stores wouldn't be too different than Parler. If we are principled people, and FB is failing to moderate, then any reasonable person who supported Parler's removal would support Facebook's. What would be different between the two decisions is the sheer magnitude of money on the line, in the case of Facebook's removal -- in capital markets, in employment, etc.

This is a political thing above all else. Its indirect bribery to the new party in power. In return, anti-trust cases (they have already been formed internally) will likely be overlooked/a call from the top or new appointments will change the calculus. This is how Washington works.

Re: Capitol Attack Was Months in the Making on Facebook

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Post by 9wzYQbTYsAIc »

trident5000 wrote: post #30
9wzYQbTYsAIc wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s based on capacity to moderate, not on an arbitrary ratio.

Looks like they dont have the capacity.

Appearances can be deceiving.

They may have the capacity to do so and just failed to do so. Or the public failed to inform Facebook of the violent messages.

Re: Capitol Attack Was Months in the Making on Facebook

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Post by burke »

efwfwef wrote: post #21

If people had called one another to prepare this, would we say that the phone was responsible for the attack? And would we try to ban phones?

Phones provide communication over distances unlike what was previously available. This is something that society has kind of settled into at this point.

Social media is new, and it provides communication fan-out unlike anything we've dealt with before except from people that are powerful enough to be given a platform on major TV networks.

Guns don't kill people, but...

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