What Parler Saw During the Attack on the Capitol
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What Parler Saw During the Attack on the Capitol
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#2Politics aside, is this potentially one of the most comprehensive multi-vantage-point training video datasets available today? I cannot imagine another that contains such a multitude of 1) videos shooters, 2) positions, 3) actual humans and 4) temporal start/end times.
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#3This is great but its been posted 5 times in the last 2 days.
https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=propublica.org
Regardless, Id like to see this with other events as well, even casual events.
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#4Politics aside, is this potentially one of the most comprehensive multi-vantage-point training video datasets available today? I cannot imagine another that contains such a multitude of 1) videos shooters, 2) positions, 3) actual humans and 4) temporal start/end times.
I would imagine so, great multiangle dataset w crowd sourced labels. Grim, but I do look forward to the meeting of all those videos and a "matterport" style reconstruction. I assume the Nytimes is paying some studio to do this right now.
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#5This is great but its been posted 5 times in the last 2 days. https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=propublica.org Regardless, Id like to see this with other events as well, even casual events.
Five times and no comments on anything. I wonder why such a trove isn't worthy of discussion?
I suspect because if people watched those videos, they'd come away with a very different perspective. Pretty much all you see is people standing around waving signs and chanting -- literally textbook non-violent protesting. Once you see them enter the Capital, you still don't see waves of violence and destruction. There are a couple-dozen aggressive/violent people at most (and those people should definitely be arrested and charged).
In contrast, I've seen hundreds of videos of other riots throughout the year where you get hundreds of videos of the violence (along with the videos of people getting chased down and beaten up for violating the "no cameras rule" because they don't want to be filmed doing horrible things. Most of those didn't have large groups just standing around waving signs and chanting -- almost everyone was involved in the violence and destruction. There was an interesting article I read that the riots this year caused more property damage than any in US history by property insurance claims. That's not including people hurt/killed, all the property damages under 10-20k per building where it costs more to file than to pay out of pocket, vehicles totaled, government buildings ruined (that the people's taxes have to pay to repair), etc.
As I said before, I have zero tolerance for the violent people at the Capital. I also have zero tolerance for those beating up and hospitalizing thousands (probably tens of thousands) throughout the summer. This is in stark contrast to most news organizations and even prominent politicians who stated that the massive violent protest was a necessary and acceptable idea while then decrying the couple dozen violent protestors at the Capital as the basest kind of evil when all of it was evil political violence and was all wrong.
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#6This is great but its been posted 5 times in the last 2 days. https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=propublica.org Regardless, Id like to see this with other events as well, even casual events.
Five times and no comments on anything. I wonder why such a trove isn't worthy of discussion? I suspect because if people watched those videos, they'd come away with a very different perspective. Pretty much all you see is people standing around waving signs and chanting -- literally textbook non-violent protesting. Once you see them enter the Capital, you still don't see waves of violence and destruction. There are…
This is exactly what I was thinking when I watched the videos. It stands in stark contrast to the media narrative.
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#7This is great but its been posted 5 times in the last 2 days. https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=propublica.org Regardless, Id like to see this with other events as well, even casual events.
Five times and no comments on anything. I wonder why such a trove isn't worthy of discussion? I suspect because if people watched those videos, they'd come away with a very different perspective. Pretty much all you see is people standing around waving signs and chanting -- literally textbook non-violent protesting. Once you see them enter the Capital, you still don't see waves of violence and destruction. There are…
I agree. For days I thought perhaps hundreds had been protesting. I was blown away to hear it was thousands, and immediately realized that the media was latching onto perhaps dozens of bad apples, so to speak.
I think it’s plain to see that most Americans don’t want to murder politicians. The Republican voters who feel disenfranchised aren’t all sharpening their axes right now.
I think it’s insane what happened. It just isn’t representative of republicans.
Not sure what to do with that. I’m Canadian so I suppose it doesn’t matter much. I only see what the media gives me and I don’t personally know a lot of Americans, let alone republicans.
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#8Politics aside, is this potentially one of the most comprehensive multi-vantage-point training video datasets available today? I cannot imagine another that contains such a multitude of 1) videos shooters, 2) positions, 3) actual humans and 4) temporal start/end times.
Now imagine letting lose SfM and tracking algorithms on this video dataset and reconstructing full temporal 3D model of the event ala Enemy of the State (1998). Add in some of [1] and we could reconstruct full Cyberpunk 2077 Braindance.
[1] https://arxiv.org/pdf/1810.04826.pdf VoiceFilter: Targeted Voice Separation by Speaker-Conditioned Spectrogram Masking
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#9This is great but its been posted 5 times in the last 2 days. https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=propublica.org Regardless, Id like to see this with other events as well, even casual events.
Five times and no comments on anything. I wonder why such a trove isn't worthy of discussion? I suspect because if people watched those videos, they'd come away with a very different perspective. Pretty much all you see is people standing around waving signs and chanting -- literally textbook non-violent protesting. Once you see them enter the Capital, you still don't see waves of violence and destruction. There are…
Storming parliament is fundamentally different from walking down some street with signs.
That's true even if the same amount of violence somehow happens at those events.
Which it didn't: These people had functioning gallows, yelled "kill Mike Pence", actually beat a police officer to death, managed to trample four of their own to death, brought zip-ties to take hostages, etc.
And you consider that peaceful?
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#10Watch the video "12:16 p.m. • Around D.C." and you can clearly see content-aware deep fake filling of crowds to increase the appearance of their magnitude. The so-called
"Parler dataset" is completely useless as anything but a curiosity with respect to examining the nature of emerging digital ground-truth and perception metrics. Nothing contained in it is verifiable, and in my opinion it would be wise to be very skeptical of anything you encounter regarding it.