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I assume the trademark thing should be a slam dunk? That seems like the most blatant trademark violation ever.
(AWS had EC2 before Elastic’s trademark was registered.)
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That is not the point. There is legal and there is good - and simply reiterating that something is legal is unproductive and pointless.
I don't think the person you are replying to is making any kind of argument about legality. I think they are saying that when you tell people something is acceptable, then they can only assume it actually is acceptable to you.
They're not wrong about Amazon misinformation, use of trademarks, and so on, and should have pursued the legal remedies for this more deeply. Called them out publically, and shamed them like this post attempts to do. But, if it didn't work, tough shit. It has nothing to do with the license. They made a contrat with their community when they choose an open source license.
>We created Elasticsearch; we care about it more than anyone else.
No, you didn't. Elasticsearch is the combined work of thousands of contributors.
Aside: using "Free & Open" in your messaging is a pretty low move, deliberately designed to mislead users.
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Yes, I would be much happier that. I do not even understand why to do this whole dance with Elastic.
A lot of people have adopted the Elastic stack over the years, I guess Amazon just wanted their share.
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That is not the point. There is legal and there is good - and simply reiterating that something is legal is unproductive and pointless.
I don't think the person you are replying to is making any kind of argument about legality. I think they are saying that when you tell people something is acceptable, then they can only assume it actually is acceptable to you.
I think that is false. Most things that are said assume that the listener will self-moderate. If I have Crohn's or IBS and I post a sign on my front-lawn saying "bathroom free to use for those in need" I'm not expecting you to pull up a tour-bus full of tourists, move into it and use it as housing, or a sex den for turning tricks. I mean, I should clarify my sign, but honestly if you don't meet me half-way with self-moderation, you are the reason we can't have nice things.
Above all, make sure you always leave money on the table, _especially_ if you are the bigger party.
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Yes, I would be much happier that. I do not even understand why to do this whole dance with Elastic.
A lot of people have adopted the Elastic stack over the years, I guess Amazon just wanted their share.
But they usually tend to build their own alternative that integrates better into their eco-system.
Amazon is the new Microsoft.
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Yes. AWS should build a real serverless alternative to it or buy Algolia or something...
Yes, I would be much happier that. I do not even understand why to do this whole dance with Elastic.
I would do the same if I were AWS.