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Show HN: Compare prices that US hospitals charge patients, insurance companies

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Re: Show HN: Compare prices that US hospitals charge patients, insurance companies

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This was a big accomplishment of the Trump admin. Regardless of what your other opinions of his administration are, healthcare pricing transparency in the US is a very important step forward to improving the healthcare situation there.

Source (one of many): https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-drugs/white-hou...

Re: Show HN: Compare prices that US hospitals charge patients, insurance companies

#12

Sometimes the cost is bigger than the cost in a different country plus the plane ticket.

I guess you could roll the dice and hope the for best but you will lose your ability to sue the hospital for malpractice if they mess up.

Re: Show HN: Compare prices that US hospitals charge patients, insurance companies

#13
post #8

Why are the prices so insane? Where do the money go? I'm from Eastern Europe so of course the prices would be different, but by an order of a magnitude at the minimum seems strange.

- paying for services for people who don't have/can't afford insurance. - medical malpractice insurance -> legal system - big pharma/med devices industry

You should add

- doctors are paid higher in the US than in another countries

- billing staff overhead because of the insane insurance system

- highly paid hospital administration

- lots of middlemen that stay invisible because there is no price transparency

- shiny new buildings that are built by friends of the hospital administration

Re: Show HN: Compare prices that US hospitals charge patients, insurance companies

#14
post #8

Why are the prices so insane? Where do the money go? I'm from Eastern Europe so of course the prices would be different, but by an order of a magnitude at the minimum seems strange.

- paying for services for people who don't have/can't afford insurance. - medical malpractice insurance -> legal system - big pharma/med devices industry

Big pharma?

Big pharma has actually reduced the hospitalization costs over the past two decades.

Edit: can someone explain downvotes?. How is big pharma increasing hospital costs?

please take a look at this, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2669633/

"The major empirical finding from this research is that medication use by Medicare beneficiaries is significantly negatively associated with hospital spending. Moreover, the cross-effect is quite large: each additional prescription drug fill reduces hospital costs by slightly more than $100 or about 5 percent measured at the mean level of Medicare payments in 2000 for inpatient hospital services for study subjects. "

Re: Show HN: Compare prices that US hospitals charge patients, insurance companies

#15

It would be nice to be able to see the lowest & highest prices & other stats. I can manually find the lowest price by sorting by price but I can't seem to reverse it to show the highest price first... Anyway, it seems that there are orders of magnitude differences for the same service. The service 'MRI Lumbar Spine With & Without Contrast Material' has a lowest price of $210 while the closest and highest I personally…

>How can there be such a large difference in price for something that, I believe, is legally & medically the same procedure?

If no one publishes their prices how do you set yours? 2 dollars? 2000 dollars? 2m dollars?

Re: Show HN: Compare prices that US hospitals charge patients, insurance companies

#16

This was a big accomplishment of the Trump admin. Regardless of what your other opinions of his administration are, healthcare pricing transparency in the US is a very important step forward to improving the healthcare situation there. Source (one of many): https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-drugs/white-hou...

It’s too bad that all the other insane things he did will overshadow literally anything of value that he accomplished.

Re: Show HN: Compare prices that US hospitals charge patients, insurance companies

#17

This was a big accomplishment of the Trump admin. Regardless of what your other opinions of his administration are, healthcare pricing transparency in the US is a very important step forward to improving the healthcare situation there. Source (one of many): https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-drugs/white-hou...

Agreed. This is only a small first step towards some level of sanity but let’s hope that the Biden administration keeps going down that path.

Re: Show HN: Compare prices that US hospitals charge patients, insurance companies

#18

Sometimes the cost is bigger than the cost in a different country plus the plane ticket.

I guess you could roll the dice and hope the for best but you will lose your ability to sue the hospital for malpractice if they mess up.

Maybe there is a chance that insurance could be enabling malpractice? I'd have to get hard data on this to make a determination but I'd wager that most reputable medical professionals try to avoid malpractice regardless of country.

Re: Show HN: Compare prices that US hospitals charge patients, insurance companies

#19

It would be nice to be able to see the lowest & highest prices & other stats. I can manually find the lowest price by sorting by price but I can't seem to reverse it to show the highest price first... Anyway, it seems that there are orders of magnitude differences for the same service. The service 'MRI Lumbar Spine With & Without Contrast Material' has a lowest price of $210 while the closest and highest I personally…

>How can there be such a large difference in price for something that, I believe, is legally & medically the same procedure? If no one publishes their prices how do you set yours? 2 dollars? 2000 dollars? 2m dollars?

I am pretty sure the providers and insurers know exactly what everyone is charging. It’s the patients that are being kept in the dark.

Re: Show HN: Compare prices that US hospitals charge patients, insurance companies

#20

Sometimes the cost is bigger than the cost in a different country plus the plane ticket.

I guess you could roll the dice and hope the for best but you will lose your ability to sue the hospital for malpractice if they mess up.

The alternative is often to not have the procedure at all.
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