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Body on a 3-day fast: Real-time data with Basis

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Re: Body on a 3-day fast: Real-time data with Basis

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Post by bfieidhbrjr »

TheJurgen wrote: post #47
bfieidhbrjr wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you water fast you excrete salt with the water you're drinking. Beginners tend to drink far too much water to mentally replace the food, and so they lose a lot of salt. Gatorade when it was invented was an electrolyte replacement. Now it has a lot more sugar too. It was probably for the salt. My longest fast was two weeks, AMA. :-)

For clarification, I take a daily electrolyte tablet with vit. C, magnesium, calcium, potassium and sodium when I fast. Generally, you want to take in less than 40 calories to stay in a proper water fast and I don’t think Gatorade fits the bill. Unless you’re doing a Fast Mimicking Diet where you’re allowed to eat up to 700 calories (I think). My longest was 5-day water fast (a few times). I found that Day 5 is bette…

The transition to ketosis is usually the hardest, which for most people is around day 3.

If you eat keto it isn't a problem.

Re: Body on a 3-day fast: Real-time data with Basis

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Post by dorchadas »

FriedrichN wrote: post #36

I don't believe in these over-engineered 'quanitified self' solutions. Just get yourself a simple step counter and go for one or two walks a day and try to up the step count by a bit every time and don't eat like an asshole. It's worked for me for a long while now.

> don't eat like an asshole

Man, it feels like you're taking a shot at me. I've averaged my 10k steps a day for almost a year now (actually averaged close to 11k in 2020 on a whole,but didn't get consistent until mid-March), and, while I have lost weight, I just can't get my diet under control. It's quite frustrating, honestly, and stems form my lack of desire to meal prep.

Re: Body on a 3-day fast: Real-time data with Basis

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Post by FriedrichN »

dorchadas wrote: post #52
FriedrichN wrote: post #36

I don't believe in these over-engineered 'quanitified self' solutions. Just get yourself a simple step counter and go for one or two walks a day and try to up the step count by a bit every time and don't eat like an asshole. It's worked for me for a long while now.

> don't eat like an asshole Man, it feels like you're taking a shot at me. I've averaged my 10k steps a day for almost a year now (actually averaged close to 11k in 2020 on a whole,but didn't get consistent until mid-March), and, while I have lost weight, I just can't get my diet under control. It's quite frustrating, honestly, and stems form my lack of desire to meal prep.

You don't have to meal prep per se, but I find having a plan helps. Buying and preparing food when you're hungry will make you eat more of the wrong stuff than if you had a plan.

I also found that by basically tripling my intake of vegetables helps a lot with feeling satiated. No one ever got fat because they ate too much broccoli, lettuce, and spinach.

Re: Body on a 3-day fast: Real-time data with Basis

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Post by hsuduebc2 »

I'm not biochemist but:

1) If you are not eating for some extended period of time, your body starts to have deficit of not only glucose but also proteins which are then accquired from your own muscles. E.g you are not losing only weight but muscles too.

2) There are various types of immune system cells and they all have different lifespan. If your body detects new pathogen it start's to produce various new immune system cells to fight infection. For example: B-lymphocytes serves as "memory cells" for specific pathogens so it is required for them to live as long as they can. What exactly are "old immune cells" then?

Thanks for answers :) Your idea of continuous health monitoring is exactly what I'm searching for, like for years.

Re: Body on a 3-day fast: Real-time data with Basis

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Post by lytefm »

je42 wrote: post #35

I wonder what this "biosensor" is. There are several Glucose monitoring products out there however connecting them and retrieving data (for other purpose) is usually a non trivial task.

I'm also wondering about that. Abbott isn't known for making the raw CGM data easily available. Neither is Oura.

It might be possible via Google fit/ Apple health or via nightscout for the CGM devices, but the latter would imply some legal trouble. Maybe OP can clarify some details of how the integration works in this product.

Re: Body on a 3-day fast: Real-time data with Basis

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Post by lytefm »

Pandabob wrote: post #28

Off-topic, but I wonder if/when realtime glucose monitoring will ever come to the Apple Watch and other activity trackers.

Some non-invasive solutions for CGM devices are quite good already. I'd expect that the technology will be included in many higher-end health tracking devices within this decade.

Re: Body on a 3-day fast: Real-time data with Basis

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Post by je42 »

lytefm wrote: post #56
je42 wrote: post #35

I wonder what this "biosensor" is. There are several Glucose monitoring products out there however connecting them and retrieving data (for other purpose) is usually a non trivial task.

I'm also wondering about that. Abbott isn't known for making the raw CGM data easily available. Neither is Oura. It might be possible via Google fit/ Apple health or via nightscout for the CGM devices, but the latter would imply some legal trouble. Maybe OP can clarify some details of how the integration works in this product.

Yeah. However, if you have a libre2 you need a patched app and then nightscouts xdrip etc to get the data of the cgm into a db.

Or you need bubble or miaomiao and again xdrip ;)

Adding a description of the setup that the author used would make the article much more substantial than it is now.

Re: Body on a 3-day fast: Real-time data with Basis

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Post by lytefm »

Just wondering - how has your experience with obtaining and aggregating relevant data like sleep duration and quality, heart rate, physical activity,... been and which sensors are you using? I was considering Empathica e4 + Freestyle Libre for a similar research project seeking to quantify influences on BG levels.

Re: Body on a 3-day fast: Real-time data with Basis

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Post by number6 »

So I fasted 3 days about 3 weeks ago (after Christmas) ok my spouse thought I was insane but I overate so much that I had the need to swing the pendulum in the other direction - after this 3 days I ate a Pizza - no cramps; nothing; just operated as usual. So I am not so sure about the whole story...
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