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I looked at all the ways Microsoft Teams tracks users

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Re: I looked at all the ways Microsoft Teams tracks users

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Without even any AI or ML: * Average counts of emojis, messages, acronyms, etc. could be misused by a human reader to determine things like age, religion, or ethnicity. If we frequently use poop emojis, we could be considered immature. If we frequently use anger emojis, we could be considered hot-tempered. If we frequently use sad emojis we could be considered to have depression. * Counts of specific words or phrases…

In GDPR this information is called Personal Identifiable Information PII.

Re: I looked at all the ways Microsoft Teams tracks users

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> your profile details including your email address and phone number, and a detailed analysis of what you were wearing on the call. (I may have made up that last one.) I think it's annoying the author chose to throw in a joke about the very point he is trying to make - that what is tracked is excessive. Or maybe this is "whoosh" over my head and I missed the point.

I also didn't like it. Someone could easily overpass this statement and start a myth.

Re: I looked at all the ways Microsoft Teams tracks users

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

apps in windows are, and have always been, more like this than mac apps. it seems like the worst offenders on mac are ports from / native residents of windows. steam does this, for example. it drives me BONKERS. at least on Mac it's kind of rare. on windows, i swear to god every single thing you install does this. razer mouse? better run at startup! weird USB peripheral you use once in a blue moon? better run at star…

This is an abject failure of OS design. If an app is allowed by the OS to insert itself in the startup list without explicit user consent first an foremost I blame the operating system. You can’t trust every app and every developer out there. I would love if there would be a Linux distro out there that would adopt some of the principles and values embodied in iOS, without the draconian Apple walled garden.

Get Sysinternals' Autoruns and simply just run it on a Windows system. There are so many ways executable code can run automatically without you knowing.

Re: I looked at all the ways Microsoft Teams tracks users

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> I imagined an individual -- or even a whole team -- being summoned by their boss and told: "You didn't respond to 47 Teams messages last month."

I can totally imagine a dystopic works where instant messages become micro-tickets, with all the ceremonies related to that.

I can see people botting teams to have an automated responder after 30+randrange(30) seconds: "Hi, thank you for IMing me, I'm currently in the middle of something, I'll get back at you in a minute :)"

Re: I looked at all the ways Microsoft Teams tracks users

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> Yet, as far as I could tell, employees don't have too much say in all this. They're forced onto a particular platform without much control over what that platform may record about them personally, with their employer being the potential beneficiary. Sorry but why is the author surprised by this? I work in corporate IT. We issue company-owned laptops / desktops / devices to employees, most of which come with Teams.…

Absolutely many companies are creating an expectation to have teams on personal devices, such as a phone. And teams uses dark patterns to trick users into allowing the company to manage the whole device, not just the teams app.

Re: I looked at all the ways Microsoft Teams tracks users

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post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

apps in windows are, and have always been, more like this than mac apps. it seems like the worst offenders on mac are ports from / native residents of windows. steam does this, for example. it drives me BONKERS. at least on Mac it's kind of rare. on windows, i swear to god every single thing you install does this. razer mouse? better run at startup! weird USB peripheral you use once in a blue moon? better run at star…

This is an abject failure of OS design. If an app is allowed by the OS to insert itself in the startup list without explicit user consent first an foremost I blame the operating system. You can’t trust every app and every developer out there. I would love if there would be a Linux distro out there that would adopt some of the principles and values embodied in iOS, without the draconian Apple walled garden.

Eh, I don't know if you can exclusively blame Apple for this one. I've observed the same behavior in the MATE environmment, both on Fedora and Pop! OS. I'd install Teams, it would autostart on login, I'd remove it from my list of startup items, then the very next time I fired up Teams it would reinsert itself. The only way to disable it was inside Teams' own preference dialog, which I found to be an extremely tone-deaf mechanic.

Re: I looked at all the ways Microsoft Teams tracks users

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I can't believe how aggressive Teams is at inserting itself in my login items (on a Mac). At first, I thought it just happened when I installed the application. But nope — any time I open Teams, it will re-insert itself in my list of login items. This happens no matter how many times I have manually removed it. I think it even happens more than once per launch because I recently launched it to join a call and then im…

It seems to do the equivalent of this on my ubuntu machine too.

I responded in more detail elsewhere because I hadn't seen your comment yet, but you're not imagining things.

Re: I looked at all the ways Microsoft Teams tracks users

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I personally find Teams to be an abomination. I asked my wife the other day, who isn't familiar with Slack or Teams, to look at the interfaces and tell me how to IM an individual. She glanced at Slack and pointed to the list of users. She looked at Teams and said "I have no idea". Slack practically invites me to reach out to people. Teams OTOH makes me want to send an email. Now you can add this tracking to the list…

Slack has it's benefits, but many of the complaints about Teams are because of its flexibility. For example the clutter of teams channels and chats can be simplified to Slack level if used with discipline (or maybe it's even configurable). The way to IM individuals is cumbersome but consistent with other cumbersome Office products.

My biggest complaint is that the “teams” section is in a completely separate tab from the “chat” section. I find that companies tend to gravitate toward one of the two, because it’s impossible to keep switching.

Re: I looked at all the ways Microsoft Teams tracks users

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I personally find Teams to be an abomination. I asked my wife the other day, who isn't familiar with Slack or Teams, to look at the interfaces and tell me how to IM an individual. She glanced at Slack and pointed to the list of users. She looked at Teams and said "I have no idea". Slack practically invites me to reach out to people. Teams OTOH makes me want to send an email. Now you can add this tracking to the list…

> She glanced at Slack and pointed to the list of users.

While I also hate the team UX, at least to me it looks pretty similar to Slack in the standard view. On my left when I start up is a list of all users. If I click one I have an IM session with that user.

There are some other "views" in Teams (Teams view, Activities view, ...) were you in one of those?

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