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Man found 'living in airport for three months' over Covid fears

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Re: Man found 'living in airport for three months' over Covid fears

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post #10

Poor guy must be living a life riddled with anxiety. Also, an airport is about the last place I'd want to be in the middle of a pandemic

True normally but the airports and planes I've seen lately were deserted so it is probably pretty safe. I was on a B737 this summer with scarcely 20 people on it. The closest one was 4 rows away.

But yeah poor guy.

Re: Man found 'living in airport for three months' over Covid fears

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post #39
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

he lived there almost 18 years - incredible

What about this 18 stay in an airport is incredible? Incredibly sad perhaps. From reading the Wikipedia he seemed to be quite stubborn as both Belgium and France offered residency, but for whatever reason he wanted to go to Britain?

as in "too extraordinary and improbable to be believed". Incredible that he was allowed to go along like this so long

Re: Man found 'living in airport for three months' over Covid fears

#44
post #2

"Based upon the need for airports to be absolutely secure so that people feel safe to travel, I do find those alleged actions do make him a danger to the community." That is such an obvious non-sequitur, shoot-the-messenger attitude to security. The "danger to the community" stems from the officials at the airport who failed to make the airport safe and prevent this sort of situation from developing.

I feel this quote hits on a nerve - what's more important than the actual safety is the perceived feeling of safety.

For all the TSA shoe removal and bottled water prohibition, they couldn't prevent someone living undetected in a restricted area of an airport for 3 months. It's almost 20 years since 9/11 and there is still this ineffective security theatre.

Re: Man found 'living in airport for three months' over Covid fears

#45
post #5

The way they framed it is such BS. If he’s a danger to passengers, so are any passengers passing through such “secure area.” It’s not like he snuck in.

Depends if it was just the arrival lounge area or the behind the scenes employee-only zone of course. He's not supposed to be there.

I assume this is where he was as otherwise he wouldn't have ended up in count IMO. After all he had a legal right to be there as an arriving passenger. I don't think the law specifies how long.

Re: Man found 'living in airport for three months' over Covid fears

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They often reason backwards. They want to order bail, but danger-to-community is a required condition for bail (as pointed out in another comment), so they proclaim that he is indeed a danger.

So is it ok for the judge to lie?

It's called "arguing in the alternative".

This is why abolishing cash bail has been popular lately, although I don't know how it's working.

Re: Man found 'living in airport for three months' over Covid fears

#47
post #10

Poor guy must be living a life riddled with anxiety. Also, an airport is about the last place I'd want to be in the middle of a pandemic

True normally but the airports and planes I've seen lately were deserted so it is probably pretty safe. I was on a B737 this summer with scarcely 20 people on it. The closest one was 4 rows away. But yeah poor guy.

Planes are safe because they have excellent air cleaning systems. Airports, being inside without great air circulation, are totally unsafe. Just one encounter is enough to get sick - you can't stay distanced forever.

Re: Man found 'living in airport for three months' over Covid fears

#48
post #2

"Based upon the need for airports to be absolutely secure so that people feel safe to travel, I do find those alleged actions do make him a danger to the community." That is such an obvious non-sequitur, shoot-the-messenger attitude to security. The "danger to the community" stems from the officials at the airport who failed to make the airport safe and prevent this sort of situation from developing.

This does sound like 'al-capone' charge - not being able to charge him for living in the airport for 3 months or finding a lost ID card, finding something else that might stick.

Re: Man found 'living in airport for three months' over Covid fears

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post #18

Airport security theatre apparently completely collapsed into a bizzaro world where wet streets cause rain and actors behave like they are on strong drugs. So, we are talking about the area you are in after a flight, yes? Remind me, BBC, why is that a "secure" area? In case people smuggle bombs/weapons on a flight, just do nothing on the flight and than harm people afterwards?! I get that you want the are to be a one…

> So, we are talking about the area you are in after a flight, yes? Since he had an employee badge, I have to assume he also entered other areas.

Downvoted. I don't see why you would assume that.

Re: Man found 'living in airport for three months' over Covid fears

#50
Sounds familiar [1]:

> The Terminal is a 2004 American comedy-drama film... about an Eastern European man who becomes stuck in New York's John F. Kennedy Airport terminal when he is denied entry into the United States and at the same time is unable to return to his native country because of a military coup.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Terminal

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