I think the court should offer the man a free antibody test to see whether he managed to avoid the COVID.
Man found 'living in airport for three months' over Covid fears
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Re: Man found 'living in airport for three months' over Covid fears
#22"Based upon the need for airports to be absolutely secure so that people feel safe to travel, I do find those alleged actions do make him a danger to the community." That is such an obvious non-sequitur, shoot-the-messenger attitude to security. The "danger to the community" stems from the officials at the airport who failed to make the airport safe and prevent this sort of situation from developing.
It seems like this was a bail hearing, where “danger to the community” is a condition—-and not a particularly rigorous one—-required to set bail[0].
Since his bail was set at $1000 according to the article, it seems like the judge also didn’t believe this guy was really all that dangerous either.
It’s important not to confuse this finding purely for bail purposes from a preliminary exam with any actual finding of guilt or innocence.
[0] https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs4.asp?ActID=1966&C...
Re: Man found 'living in airport for three months' over Covid fears
#23"Based upon the need for airports to be absolutely secure so that people feel safe to travel, I do find those alleged actions do make him a danger to the community." That is such an obvious non-sequitur, shoot-the-messenger attitude to security. The "danger to the community" stems from the officials at the airport who failed to make the airport safe and prevent this sort of situation from developing.
Yes, I had to read that a second time, at first I thought the judge was talking about the airport officials not doing their job, apparently being too afraid to take a flight back home because of a global pandemic makes you a "danger to the community" now? Slightly related to this, who's judging the judges? I know about the whole theoretical discussion of the judiciary being independent and only from time to time bein…
> apparently being too afraid to take a flight back home because of a global pandemic
I'm not a doctor or a lawyer but the fact that this has ended up in court rather help and support from medical professionals makes me think the whole system has failed this person.
Re: Man found 'living in airport for three months' over Covid fears
#24Lol, does the airport ToS say that you need to exit within?
Maybe he got into trouble for stealing^W misapproprating the employee ID card. I wonder if this particular airport has opening hours and therefore have times where no one is allowed to be in. Airports like Dubai operate 24 hours, I guess it would be possible to "live" there, especially the transit lounge. They even have shower facilities...
It makes me want to try it, lounge around there for a week, for yucks. Although, hanging around globetrotters during these days would not be clever...
Re: Man found 'living in airport for three months' over Covid fears
#25Mr. Navorski?
Re: Man found 'living in airport for three months' over Covid fears
#26"Based upon the need for airports to be absolutely secure so that people feel safe to travel, I do find those alleged actions do make him a danger to the community." That is such an obvious non-sequitur, shoot-the-messenger attitude to security. The "danger to the community" stems from the officials at the airport who failed to make the airport safe and prevent this sort of situation from developing.
I think its relevant that his name is "Mr Aditya Singh". This might give a clue to his ethnicity and therefore how dangerous the judge (stupidly) perceives him to be.
I hope you are wrong that his ethnicity has anything to do with his treatment. Not least because Singh is a traditionally Sikh name making the implication doubly stupid.
Re: Man found 'living in airport for three months' over Covid fears
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Couldn't agree more. If he was caught after a few hours, that's on him and security are doing their job. 3 months is a damning amount of time for the officials. It is an another interesting example of social engineering and the ability for people to believe anyone with a badge.
After a couple weeks, he's just a familiar face - that one guy that's always the first to show up for work each day.
And oddly enough, the last one to leave.
Re: Man found 'living in airport for three months' over Covid fears
#28"Based upon the need for airports to be absolutely secure so that people feel safe to travel, I do find those alleged actions do make him a danger to the community." That is such an obvious non-sequitur, shoot-the-messenger attitude to security. The "danger to the community" stems from the officials at the airport who failed to make the airport safe and prevent this sort of situation from developing.
Came here to say the exact same thing. If anything him living for 3 month in a highly secure area without doing anything nefarious is proof that he is not a danger to the community. What is wrong with that judge, if it was the prosecute saying this ok, but the judge?!
They often reason backwards. They want to order bail, but danger-to-community is a required condition for bail (as pointed out in another comment), so they proclaim that he is indeed a danger.
Re: Man found 'living in airport for three months' over Covid fears
#29"Based upon the need for airports to be absolutely secure so that people feel safe to travel, I do find those alleged actions do make him a danger to the community." That is such an obvious non-sequitur, shoot-the-messenger attitude to security. The "danger to the community" stems from the officials at the airport who failed to make the airport safe and prevent this sort of situation from developing.
The judge was a woman and defendant a man - men always get tougher punishments and are incarnated at higher alarmingly higher levels. This is the way society is.
Re: Man found 'living in airport for three months' over Covid fears
#30Airport security theatre apparently completely collapsed into a bizzaro world where wet streets cause rain and actors behave like they are on strong drugs. So, we are talking about the area you are in after a flight, yes? Remind me, BBC, why is that a "secure" area? In case people smuggle bombs/weapons on a flight, just do nothing on the flight and than harm people afterwards?! I get that you want the are to be a one…
> So, we are talking about the area you are in after a flight, yes? Remind me, BBC, why is that a "secure" area?
Firstly, if passengers with connecting flights can get off one flight and onto another without going through security again, then the arrivals area must be connected to the departures area, and hence as secure as the departures area.
Indeed, if I wanted to sleep in an airport I'd go to the connections/departures area - as someone sleeping while awaiting a connection wouldn't seem out of the ordinary. Whereas sleeping in arrivals would be unusual, as an arriving passenger would go to their hotel or house and sleep there instead.
Secondly, if international arrivals have not yet passed through customs/immigration, the area should be secure enough that they have to do so. Although in the case of O'Hare, I believe international arrivals have a separate terminal, and this passenger was on a domestic flight.