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Re: Review broken products instead of new ones

#51

This is a good idea, but a lot of products are only sold for a few years before being discontinued; reading a review for a printer that's no longer sold (except secondhand) is unfortunately not very useful.

Product revisions are indeed a challenge. I plan to add a way to say "this was an older version, but here is the current model, which has still the same level of quality".

Re: Review broken products instead of new ones

#52

These very helpful types of reviews won't be that helpful if by the time you get a review, the product has already been pulled from the market ...

As mentioned above: Product revisions are indeed a challenge. I plan to add a way to say "this was an older version, but here is the current model, which has still the same level of quality".

Re: Review broken products instead of new ones

#54
This would be a better idea if the site it promotes didn't have overreaching terms of service. If they get sued for defamation, you, who posted a review, have to pay their costs.[1] Despite the site being run from Zurich, the terms have the line "In any circumstances where the foregoing Arbitration Agreement permits the parties to litigate in court, the parties hereby agree to submit to the personal jurisdiction of the courts located within Netherlands County, California, for such purposes." There is no Netherlands County, California.

[1] https://www.buyforlife.com/terms-of-use

Re: Review broken products instead of new ones

#55
post #18

Speaking of useful reviews, I'm a fan of AvE's BOLTRs[1]. Takes tools apart and analyses materials, construction, and estimated failure points. (Beware some NSFW language though.) https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvgS71fU12Mbx-w18Chu_... [1] - Arduino vs. Evil - Bored of Lame Tool Reviews

He also takes apart tools that have failed on him. Recently he had a pair of videos on a couple of cordless impact drivers purchased in bulk that both failed after not much use. So, reviewing failed products.

Re: Review broken products instead of new ones

#57

Why dont they do it? I havent seen anywhere themdoing it in fact from their website "Free, hand curated updates on new products for people who think quality and sustainability matters."

Lawsuits from manufacturers seems like how this would die.

No prob! Read the terms of service. If they get sued, you, who posted, have to pay. That's what "indemnification" means.

Re: Review broken products instead of new ones

#58
post #54

This would be a better idea if the site it promotes didn't have overreaching terms of service. If they get sued for defamation, you, who posted a review, have to pay their costs.[1] Despite the site being run from Zurich, the terms have the line "In any circumstances where the foregoing Arbitration Agreement permits the parties to litigate in court, the parties hereby agree to submit to the personal jurisdiction of t…

Nice snooping around!

Tbh, those are really big red flags, that I wonder if it's even possible to trust the rest of the article.

Edit:- Seems that Netherlands County, California was on some template T&C that a lot of small firms just copied.

Re: Review broken products instead of new ones

#59
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup, the Made in USA Craftsman has long been gone since it's been sold to China. MAC and Snap-on still maintain their quality but I don't run an auto repair shop to justify my purchase. I try to look for the Made in Taiwan Craftsman tools as a compromise or pay extra to buy German steel. I like the concept of Buy it for Life but sometimes you just need something once (like a Harbor Freight tool).

The Harbor Freight hand tools I've bought are really pretty decent. Wrenches, sockets, screwdrivers. I'm not a pro mechanic but I do a lot of my own auto maintenance. HF hand tools are least as good as current Craftsman, probably better IMO.

Harbor Freight (and to be fair Home Depot's Husky) have replicated the hand-tool warranty of Sears - buy either of those and if the hand tool breaks at ANY TIME just take it to the store and get another one. No shipping, no fuss.

THAT was the real driver for Craftsman.

Re: Review broken products instead of new ones

#60
post #54

This would be a better idea if the site it promotes didn't have overreaching terms of service. If they get sued for defamation, you, who posted a review, have to pay their costs.[1] Despite the site being run from Zurich, the terms have the line "In any circumstances where the foregoing Arbitration Agreement permits the parties to litigate in court, the parties hereby agree to submit to the personal jurisdiction of t…

Not the OP, but I’m willing to bet this is just a copy paste of some generic boiler plate t&c with a bad search and replace applied.

I agree it’s not good though, and if that is the case, they should definitely pay to have some created for specifically for their site

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