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Re: Update on an Employee Matter

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Post by chandra381 »

throwaway_6142 wrote: post #151
chandra381 wrote: post #148

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Are you a GitHub employee? Otherwise what is the purpose of this really weird and ad-hominem rant

How is it ad-hominem?

You've spent your entire comment attacking an imagined "left" instead of engaging with the content of the article or contributing meaningfully to the discussion.

> The left thinks their ideological enemies are war criminals who should be executed without trial, or even better be defamed into unemployability and homelessness and hopefully commit suicide, the ultimate triumph for the far-left mob.

This is.. false on so many levels

> many white men in general, feel they are being treated very unfairly and realize that far-left activist employees are basically being allowed to frivolously hurt them with impunity and full company backing, even if their activism hurts the other employees ability to do their work and thus the company

This is also false.

This entire comment is full of delusions of victimhood and rants against an imagined enemy. It's telling that you used a sockpuppet or a throwaway account to write this instead of an actual account. I honestly feel sad for you.

Re: Update on an Employee Matter

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Post by u801e »

s1artibartfast wrote: post #239
jakelazaroff wrote: post #233

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What’s the minimum body count required for it to be a terrorist attack? Yes, it wasn’t nearly as bad as it could have been. But don’t kid yourself into thinking that their goal was just to take selfies in the Senate chambers. The only reason we didn’t see much more violence is that congresspeople were evacuated in time.

Half the problem is people throwing around words like them and their without qualification. There were thousands of people with different views. Some were neonazis and some were terrorist. We all need to be more careful with our generalizations

I'm willing to bet if it was thousands of Muslims involved in that event, you would not be making this argument.

Re: Update on an Employee Matter

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Post by s1artibartfast »

u801e wrote: post #242
s1artibartfast wrote: post #239

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Half the problem is people throwing around words like them and their without qualification. There were thousands of people with different views. Some were neonazis and some were terrorist. We all need to be more careful with our generalizations

I'm willing to bet if it was thousands of Muslims involved in that event, you would not be making this argument.

What do you know about me to make such a specific and personal attack?

Re: Update on an Employee Matter

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Post by u801e »

s1artibartfast wrote: post #243
u801e wrote: post #242

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm willing to bet if it was thousands of Muslims involved in that event, you would not be making this argument.

What do you know about me to make such a specific and personal attack?

About you specifically, nothing. Based on pattern recognition pertaining to news reports and analysis of various events over the last 25 or so years, many analysts who are now excusing and making distinctions between various types of people were the ones who were pointing fingers towards Islamic terrorists as the instigators. This was most evident in the immediate aftermath of the Oklahoma City bombing.

Re: Update on an Employee Matter

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Post by s1artibartfast »

u801e wrote: post #244
s1artibartfast wrote: post #243

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you know about me to make such a specific and personal attack?

About you specifically, nothing. Based on pattern recognition pertaining to news reports and analysis of various events over the last 25 or so years, many analysts who are now excusing and making distinctions between various types of people were the ones who were pointing fingers towards Islamic terrorists as the instigators. This was most evident in the immediate aftermath of the Oklahoma City bombing.

Balanced perspectives and opinions on Islamic terrorism and domestic terrorism are mindful of making distinctions between militants and other groups. Hypocrisy and partisan sentiments are rampant right now. I think it is that important not to fan the flames

Re: Update on an Employee Matter

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Post by rottingfruit »

manicdee wrote: post #214
rottingfruit wrote: post #112

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I don’t mean to ask this in an accusatory gotcha way I’m just wondering what your stance is on someone warning their coworkers in Portland, or somewhere else that there are “looting communists around so be careful.” Or something similar referring to a blm protest. Do you feel this is also appropriate in a workplace channel?

"whataboutism" is exactly an accusatory gotcha.

I guess agree to disagree? I personally don’t believe that these sorts of conversations are work appropriate and I’m wondering whether or not they become inappropriate when the poster disagrees with what’s being posted. The only way I could see this being taken as an accusatory gotcha is if your world view being questioned in any sense is a personal attack. Which is pretty par for the course for older millennials tbh.

Re: Update on an Employee Matter

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Post by hh3k0 »

8fGTBjZxBcHq wrote: post #133
hh3k0 wrote: post #72

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> in the context of “stay safe homies, Nazis are about.” He actually forgot a comma in that message. Maybe Grammar Nazis are about at GitHub?

how the fuck could you think this would be funny in this thread, this week.

Why wouldn't it? If the Capitol rioters have taught us anything _last_ week, it's that they're incompetent clowns -- much like Cheeto Mussolini.

Re: Update on an Employee Matter

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Post by Ballas »

otterley wrote: post #179
loeg wrote: post #56

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It's weird to me that this was the head of HR's mistake (sort of implied) and not a more junior manager (both in reality, and in who usually gets the blame even if it's a senior manager's fuck-up). There is some unnamed VP of engineering who may have kicked off the process with HR. I don't know. I'm glad GH (1) took another look at the firing, (2) realized they were mistaken, and (3) mea culpa'd publicly.

A good leader is supposed to take responsibility for the actions taken by his or her team. Failure of a unit implies failure of the leadership. In my view, the right outcome happened here.

Would that not just lead to no good leaders over the long term? (with the good ones always resigning due to actions of their team members)

Re: Update on an Employee Matter

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Post by brohee »

pc86 wrote: post #157

It's a good thing Nat took the time to tell us that GitHub condemns the attack on the US Capitol. We might not know otherwise. I mean seriously, why do corporations feel the need to say this nonsense? Are we really at the point where a corporation needs to waste time to tell us "hey y'all, in case you weren't sure, we don't actually support an armed insurrection attempting to stop the democratic transfer of power, an…

Are you so sure that e.g. Chick-fil-A doesn't support it. There are corporation with a right wing agenda...

Re: Update on an Employee Matter

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Post by dustinmoris »

jakelazaroff wrote: post #191
dustinmoris wrote: post #190

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> avoid making conservatives uncomfortable Hacker News has a huge global audience. Conservatism means something very different in all parts of the world. I assume you mean Republicans in America? Just to give you context, here in Europe we would consider the Democrats in the US a right conservative party and Republicans a far right party. Conservatives in Europe would be considered far left in the US, because in Euro…

We are discussing a conflict between American employees in a US-based office about an event involving American residents. It should be clear that I’m specifically referring to American conservatives.

Conservative Jews were first vindicated for being Jewish in the 1940s and now the same people are being vindicated by the next ignorant group for being conservative, because people like think it is ok to blame an entire group of people based on personal, religious or political beliefs which do no harm. Conservatism isn’t harmful. Conservative Jews also hate Nazis.
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