Live data from Hacker News

Drunken Sailor – Public Domain Sea Shanty

opengameart.org

51–60 of 71 posts

Re: Drunken Sailor – Public Domain Sea Shanty

#52

What do we do with an internet fad? What do we do with an internet fad? What do we do with an internet fad? Early in the morning? We upvote of course... love the shanties.

super picky, but your words either require an awkard mellisma on "fad" or the wrong accent: interNET because of the substitute of SAILor for NETfad.

Sometimes there's no easy solution to such puzzles. Best I got (which is not great) is: what do we do with a trendy fad post?

Re: Drunken Sailor – Public Domain Sea Shanty

#53

2021 is the year of the Sea Shanty!

I was into sea shantiea before they were cool! /s

Seriously though, my favorite: Johhny Depps collab sea shanty albums with many famous artists: Rogues Gallery 1 and 2. They went under the radar but I really like hearing new takes, and I want Bonos "A Dying Sailor to his Shipmates" played at my wake. Frission every time I hear it.

Re: Drunken Sailor – Public Domain Sea Shanty

#54
post #24

Not sure where all the shanty love on HN has come from, but I'm loving it. Obligated to share my favorite, a youtube classic of sorts by this point: https://youtu.be/49FWp7WLYKw

Every time I see that clip I feel obliged to point out the green shirt guy who shows up around 1:50 on the far left singing the harmony. He's essential to the richness of the sound of the chorus. Which always leaves me wondering how common this would have been in the 1800s. Back in the days when listening to music at home meant playing it, was your average group of scalawags always going to have a few people who sang…

A long time ago I had occasion to visit Wales and witnessed harmony singing at a very grand scale. But that may have been because a high percentage of individuals were in smaller choir groups as part of local culture. And if only half of the entire singing crowd sings 2 to 3 harmony parts rather than the lead line, it sounds amazing.

With a little practice from young age, it’s not too difficult to harmonize, if you know the lead line and have a sense of culturally common chord structures (also learned by immersion).

Re: Drunken Sailor – Public Domain Sea Shanty

#56
post #10

Some much much better versions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X8T1MonrPs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_RWtdm81WU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkJtHXfRH74 Warning: incredibly sexist lyrics in one of the verses

Great Big Sea’s version is my favourite:

https://youtu.be/uTIzotr2If0

Re: Drunken Sailor – Public Domain Sea Shanty

#57
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Shanty love came from a TikTok viral video: https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/the-delig...

To be clear, firstly it came from YouTube to TikTok, see my comment[0] [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25814759#25816838

It came from the Pirate Captain, no?

Re: Drunken Sailor – Public Domain Sea Shanty

#58
post #24

Not sure where all the shanty love on HN has come from, but I'm loving it. Obligated to share my favorite, a youtube classic of sorts by this point: https://youtu.be/49FWp7WLYKw

Every time I see that clip I feel obliged to point out the green shirt guy who shows up around 1:50 on the far left singing the harmony. He's essential to the richness of the sound of the chorus. Which always leaves me wondering how common this would have been in the 1800s. Back in the days when listening to music at home meant playing it, was your average group of scalawags always going to have a few people who sang…

I'm taking part in a kind of folk music revival scene in my country and thus interested in those kinds of stuff. The initial disclaimer is, given that this is "non-material cultural heritage", it's hard to be sure about details; however, just for some incomplete (from what I see - I'm surprised they don't even mention Ukrainian or Russian folk music at all) summary of what is known, see e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyphony (based on this, polyphony existed for sure at least before year 900). For some especially exotic (for "us") stuff see e.g.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnGM0BlA95I

Now to get closer to answering your actual question: from what I heard from some researchers (for whom visiting remote villages is part of their work), in shortest words, I understand people who were surrounded by songs all their life would "feel what is missing" by ear, and join with their voice to "fill the gap". Expanding a bit more on that, basically among every local community there were some people that were better at singing compared to the others. And singing tended to be required in some form, as part of various rituals (e.g. marriage, death are moments in life where you can be pretty sure there was some accompanying community ritual; and moms would shush and lullaby their kids even just for practical reasons). So it was more or less unavoidable to be familiar with singing to some extent. Now, as to the specific harmonies used in the modern sea shanties scene, I don't know enough to be able to say whether any of them are grounded in harmonies actually used on ships - that's not an area I've ever researched.

edit: Two more things: (1) higher layers of society tended to be derogatory towards the culture of the lower layers (I guess somewhat necessarily in order to differentiate and maintain status), so a lot of what you learn about history of music tends to be just about the music of the nobility, which often was just a small percent of the population; (2) also, singing is actually very close to speaking and shouting (see e.g.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYO_B5Nj8QY), so it's not hard to imagine singing in general might be at least as old as speech itself...

Re: Drunken Sailor – Public Domain Sea Shanty

#60

What do we do with an internet fad? What do we do with an internet fad? What do we do with an internet fad? Early in the morning? We upvote of course... love the shanties.

super picky, but your words either require an awkard mellisma on "fad" or the wrong accent: interNET because of the substitute of SAILor for NETfad. Sometimes there's no easy solution to such puzzles. Best I got (which is not great) is: what do we do with a trendy fad post?

I definitely took liberties with extending fad to be two syllables covering the last two notes. It’s tricky and quickly becomes an ear worm.
Post reply on HN