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Re: Update on an Employee Matter

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What impact does an employee’s “morality” have on the business, from a Christian perspective? I don’t actually believe there’s a cogent argument that e.g. premarital sex makes someone less effective at their job.

What about theft? Drug use? Fraud? Clearly these can affect your performance at work, so it's completely fine to proselytize at work.

It’s a looooong jump from “don’t steal from the company” to “Christ is your savior”.

Re: Update on an Employee Matter

#223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What impact does an employee’s “morality” have on the business, from a Christian perspective? I don’t actually believe there’s a cogent argument that e.g. premarital sex makes someone less effective at their job.

What about theft? Drug use? Fraud? Clearly these can affect your performance at work, so it's completely fine to proselytize at work.

>It’s a looooong jump from “don’t steal from the company” to “Christ is your savior”.

Almost as long of a jump as "I'm scared for your safety for a riot that occurred a week ago, so I need to retroactively warn you about Nazis"

Re: Update on an Employee Matter

#224

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Yes, we don't take calling anyone "Nazi" lightly. Well, at least level-headed people don't. It's disrespectful to the people who were imprisoned, tortured and exterminated by the real Nazis.

As a member of the group of people who were imprisoned, tortured and exterminated by the “real” Nazis, I’d much rather be warned that their successors were involved in an ongoing terrorist attack in the immediate vicinity than tiptoe around the issue to avoid making conservatives uncomfortable.

As a member of the group of people who were imprisoned, tortured and exterminated by the “real” Nazis, I'd much rather not see words "Nazi" and "terrorist" used for protesters (or even rioters) whose intentions had nothing to do with extermination, torture, or serious attempts of coup or terrorism (cf. actual terrorist attacks by actual terrorists in Europe).

Re: Update on an Employee Matter

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post #224

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As a member of the group of people who were imprisoned, tortured and exterminated by the “real” Nazis, I’d much rather be warned that their successors were involved in an ongoing terrorist attack in the immediate vicinity than tiptoe around the issue to avoid making conservatives uncomfortable.

As a member of the group of people who were imprisoned, tortured and exterminated by the “real” Nazis, I'd much rather not see words "Nazi" and "terrorist" used for protesters (or even rioters) whose intentions had nothing to do with extermination, torture, or serious attempts of coup or terrorism (cf. actual terrorist attacks by actual terrorists in Europe).

https://news.yahoo.com/q-shaman-stormed-capitol-upset-192631...

The guy in the yellow shirt is Jason Tankersley, founder of the Maryland Skinheads. The guy to his right in the mask is Matthew Heimbach, former leader of the Traditionalist Workers Party (a neo nazi org).

This wasn't an exaggeration, a high number of literal neo nazi leaders were present.

Re: Update on an Employee Matter

#226

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about theft? Drug use? Fraud? Clearly these can affect your performance at work, so it's completely fine to proselytize at work.

>It’s a looooong jump from “don’t steal from the company” to “Christ is your savior”. Almost as long of a jump as "I'm scared for your safety for a riot that occurred a week ago, so I need to retroactively warn you about Nazis"

If you’re referring to the GitHub situation, the comment in question was made as the attack was ongoing.

Re: Update on an Employee Matter

#227
post #144

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And we won't even give the name of the person who's taking personal responsibility, we'll just quietly scrub her name from the "leadership" page. Some anonymous person is taking personal responsibility and keeping her name out of the news so she can get a CHRO job somewhere else. https://github.com/about/leadership http://web.archive.org/web/20210101021219/https://github.com...

It’s not ethical to post the persons name, and potentially even illegal.

Why is it not ethical to post Carrie Olesen's name? The article says she's taking "personal responsibility" for the situation, does it not? How can you take responsibility if nobody knows who you are?

I, for one, applaud Carrie Olesen's personal responsibility in admitting to siding with Nazis and firing a Jew.

Re: Update on an Employee Matter

#228
post #224

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a member of the group of people who were imprisoned, tortured and exterminated by the “real” Nazis, I'd much rather not see words "Nazi" and "terrorist" used for protesters (or even rioters) whose intentions had nothing to do with extermination, torture, or serious attempts of coup or terrorism (cf. actual terrorist attacks by actual terrorists in Europe).

https://news.yahoo.com/q-shaman-stormed-capitol-upset-192631... The guy in the yellow shirt is Jason Tankersley, founder of the Maryland Skinheads. The guy to his right in the mask is Matthew Heimbach, former leader of the Traditionalist Workers Party (a neo nazi org). This wasn't an exaggeration, a high number of literal neo nazi leaders were present.

Treating them the same as Hitler is literally “crying wolf”. These people are closer to internet trolls then they are to 1930s Nazis.

Re: Update on an Employee Matter

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post #224

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a member of the group of people who were imprisoned, tortured and exterminated by the “real” Nazis, I’d much rather be warned that their successors were involved in an ongoing terrorist attack in the immediate vicinity than tiptoe around the issue to avoid making conservatives uncomfortable.

As a member of the group of people who were imprisoned, tortured and exterminated by the “real” Nazis, I'd much rather not see words "Nazi" and "terrorist" used for protesters (or even rioters) whose intentions had nothing to do with extermination, torture, or serious attempts of coup or terrorism (cf. actual terrorist attacks by actual terrorists in Europe).

These were quite literal neo-Nazis engaged in a literal terrorist attack. I really don’t understand the hand wringing over describing it accurately.

Re: Update on an Employee Matter

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post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://news.yahoo.com/q-shaman-stormed-capitol-upset-192631... The guy in the yellow shirt is Jason Tankersley, founder of the Maryland Skinheads. The guy to his right in the mask is Matthew Heimbach, former leader of the Traditionalist Workers Party (a neo nazi org). This wasn't an exaggeration, a high number of literal neo nazi leaders were present.

Treating them the same as Hitler is literally “crying wolf”. These people are closer to internet trolls then they are to 1930s Nazis.

If Literal Hitler were in the crowd I guarantee there would be people downplaying it like this.
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