I'd love to see a quality color e-reader, but mostly I just want a better black and white kindle. Smoother refresh and better contrast.
E Ink has developed a 2nd generation Advanced Color E-Paper
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#82Why does every article on e-paper omit the most interesting bit of information? I.e. the refresh time.
Because it’s bad compared to every other digital display. They’re always on the order of seconds , and get even worse the more colors there are. Tri-color displays (red, white, and black) are sometimes up to a dozen seconds or worse. For example, [0] has a refresh time of fifteen seconds ! I’d be surprised if this isn’t an order of magnitude worse than that. [0]: https://www.good-display.com/product/223.html
> Because it’s bad compared to every other digital display.
DASUNG seems to have a very fast refresh rate on their e-paper displays, enough so that they’re marketing an e-paper monitor.[0]
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#83So I’ll ask here as there may be some lurkers who can help me in my quest: I am trying to find a basic e-reader. I have a simple want: I want a built in browser that will let me download ePub and pdf etc from the browser. I’m not interested in bundled bookstores. I’m not keen on having to load books onto it via a pc app nor emailing them nor having an Amazon account neither. I just want to be able to browse and downl…
I use a Kobo Clara HD. It has a Kobo store where you can buy books, or you can use the “experimental web browser”, point it to libgen or your libraries website, and download whatever book you want.
More often than not though I just hook it up to my Linux laptop and transfer books via usb.
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#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is why I am so against intellectual monopoly like this. It does not create continuous incentive to innovate and instead allows companies with just a bit of innovation to rest on their laurels. I think there would be much more innovation in the world, aka a “higher rate of innovation” without intellectual monopolies and intellectual property restrictions.
Why would you want to innovate when the bigger competitor can just copy you without paying you anything? This current situation is unfortunate, but I think it's an imperfection of the market. If the patent owning company had been a bit less greedy, they could have made far more money with it.
For the same reason startups can win over existing giants: first to market is important.
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#85I've heard people argue that e-ink displays would be in much wider use if the patent-holding company weren't so protective of the technology. So the news I'm waiting to hear is when E-Ink the company decides to loosen up its business practices.
not going to happen it s the only thing they have and they know its a cash cow if it gets wide adoption unfortunately they have gotten greedy and no one will pay it. They also seem to think their market is digital signage and aren't that interested in licensing for other mass market consumer products despite the fact the market it has been adopted most in is e-readers
This seems to be the opposite of what the article says:
>This technology is not going to be employed for digital signage, but instead will be marketed towards e-reader companies who want a high resolution alternative to E INK Kaleido 2.
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#86So I’ll ask here as there may be some lurkers who can help me in my quest: I am trying to find a basic e-reader. I have a simple want: I want a built in browser that will let me download ePub and pdf etc from the browser. I’m not interested in bundled bookstores. I’m not keen on having to load books onto it via a pc app nor emailing them nor having an Amazon account neither. I just want to be able to browse and downl…
I recently bought the Onyx Boox Poke 2 Color. [0]
I love the little guy. Lighter than any paperback I've ever owned. Fits in a large pocket. Displays in color! Which lets me highlight in color! And runs Android 9.0 with Google Play Services (though activating this is a bit hacky). Can install whatever Android browser you want. It's the "Gameboy Color" stage of color vibrancy, but it's color.
Problem is, to my knowledge, this was a limited run. I got mine from Good eReader, but they sold out of this model, and I don't know when or if there will be more.
I haven't tested, but I think the Onyx Boox Poke 3 (not color) might be able to install GPS too.
[0] https://goodereader.com/blog/reviews/hands-on-review-of-the-...
ETA: Note about quality of colors.
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#87I'm still waiting for widely available and affordable e-ink displays for tinkerers. I'd love to put one onto a Raspberry Pi to show some information, but it's just too expensive right now.
You can get 7" e paper displays for about the same cost as an rpi from waveshare and similar.
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#88From their photos, this looks mighty impressive!
https://goodereader.com/blog/uploads/images/2021/01/1-75sD-q...
Still not as good as printed ink but this is good enough for many applications.
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you elaborate on the memory pricing?
Here's an article from 2011 doing Moore's Law extrapolation of RAM and disk prices: https://antranik.org/using-moores-law-to-predict-future-memo... RAM, 2011: "A single 8GB stick of RAM is about $80 right now. In 2021, you’d be able to buy a single stick of RAM that contains 64GB for the same price." Disks, 2011: "The price of a 1-terabyte hard drive is $80 now... In 2013, a 2TB drive will be $80. In 2015, a 4TB driv…
Moore's law was (1) an observation of historical data and (2) never a guarantee by vendors to make higher capacity products at lower prices. The extrapolation is just nonsense wishful thinking.
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#90E-ink is one of those techs that only advanced when large batches of patents expire. E-ink the company has tied up the tech stack in so many patents, NDA's, and exorbitant prices that no one wants to touch it. E-ink the technology wont go any where for 10-15 years when that next big batch of patents expire. Its just like 3D displays and VR there will be a massive consumer push new batches of patents will be filed pro…
Well there haven’t really been any competing technologies either. Maybe tcl nxtpaper will push eink forward. Or ultimately kill it