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E Ink has developed a 2nd generation Advanced Color E-Paper

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Re: E Ink has developed a 2nd generation Advanced Color E-Paper

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Post by chrismorgan »

> They can display a total of 32,000 colors and 200 to 300 PPI, depending on the screen size.

I’m going to guess that’s 15-bit colour (32,768 colours) in the form of RGB channels, 5 bits per channel (32 possible values).

For full colour imagery, I imagine you’d still want dithering to simulate higher bit depths. 300dpi is fine enough that I believe you could make it very subtle indeed, so that you could well have to examine it quite closely to notice.

> It will be able to display over 40,000 different colors

… but then again, maybe it’s not done as RGB data in this way. I have no idea what array of inputs a range of 40,000 would correspond to. I’m not familiar with this sort of hardware.

Re: E Ink has developed a 2nd generation Advanced Color E-Paper

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Post by TaylorAlexander »

elaus wrote: post #12

I'm still waiting for widely available and affordable e-ink displays for tinkerers. I'd love to put one onto a Raspberry Pi to show some information, but it's just too expensive right now.

Yes a little tablet with the Pi4 compute module would be very nice!

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Post by _Microft »

listerOfSmeg wrote: post #6

E-ink is one of those techs that only advanced when large batches of patents expire. E-ink the company has tied up the tech stack in so many patents, NDA's, and exorbitant prices that no one wants to touch it. E-ink the technology wont go any where for 10-15 years when that next big batch of patents expire. Its just like 3D displays and VR there will be a massive consumer push new batches of patents will be filed pro…

Don’t forget 3D printing that also only really started when patents expired.

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Post by TaylorAlexander »

listerOfSmeg wrote: post #9
davesque wrote: post #4

I've heard people argue that e-ink displays would be in much wider use if the patent-holding company weren't so protective of the technology. So the news I'm waiting to hear is when E-Ink the company decides to loosen up its business practices.

not going to happen it s the only thing they have and they know its a cash cow if it gets wide adoption unfortunately they have gotten greedy and no one will pay it. They also seem to think their market is digital signage and aren't that interested in licensing for other mass market consumer products despite the fact the market it has been adopted most in is e-readers

This is why I am so against intellectual monopoly like this. It does not create continuous incentive to innovate and instead allows companies with just a bit of innovation to rest on their laurels. I think there would be much more innovation in the world, aka a “higher rate of innovation” without intellectual monopolies and intellectual property restrictions.

Re: E Ink has developed a 2nd generation Advanced Color E-Paper

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Post by coder543 »

elaus wrote: post #12

I'm still waiting for widely available and affordable e-ink displays for tinkerers. I'd love to put one onto a Raspberry Pi to show some information, but it's just too expensive right now.

Define "too expensive". Is $20 really too much? https://www.adafruit.com/product/4687

The larger the display, the more expensive it is, but that's not unusual, and LCDs aren't much different in price until you start to get to really large e-ink panels. (Given the depth of the LCD market, I'm sure you can find unusually cheap panels somewhere... the point remains. The prices aren't that bad these days for e-ink.)

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Post by ianai »

davesque wrote: post #4

I've heard people argue that e-ink displays would be in much wider use if the patent-holding company weren't so protective of the technology. So the news I'm waiting to hear is when E-Ink the company decides to loosen up its business practices.

Too bad one of the megacaps hasn’t bought them out.

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Post by IgorPartola »

ianai wrote: post #18
davesque wrote: post #4

I've heard people argue that e-ink displays would be in much wider use if the patent-holding company weren't so protective of the technology. So the news I'm waiting to hear is when E-Ink the company decides to loosen up its business practices.

Too bad one of the megacaps hasn’t bought them out.

Yes because the only thing better than a medium sized company that won’t license its patents is a megacorp that won’t license its patents /s

No the solution is to incentivize patent licensing and in the case of software make it simply not patentable. The corporate overlords won’t save us from themselves. If they had their way patents would simply never expire.

Re: E Ink has developed a 2nd generation Advanced Color E-Paper

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Post by bergstromm466 »

Goddammit I hate patents, trade secrets and intellectual property. I want this out there on all my devices. Imagine how much less energy we'd use, how much less e-waste we would generate, and how grateful our eyes would be if we weren't staring at blue lights all day.
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