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Re: Update on an Employee Matter

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Are you a GitHub employee? Otherwise what is the purpose of this really weird and ad-hominem rant

How is it ad-hominem?

Note that you never get a reply or any reasoned argument. Only shadowbannings. They censor you, and that's all they do. Their pretending that they are "fearful" is only to exploit the empathy of others in order to sadistically hurt them. The "fragile left" are not afraid, they only use those tactics to humiliate you.

Re: Update on an Employee Matter

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Isn't that standard fare for workplaces everywhere in the world now? Not that I like it much, but it seems to be the normal approach.

I work at a company going hard on diversity and inclusion and they haven't gone even a baby step towards asking us to empathize with the grievances of people who feel fascism is the only thing that can help them. Empathy isn't the same as tolerance, but I'd expect they'd either know the optics would be terrible or don't see the difference themselves.

Not sure how you arrive at that interpretation of "people who feel fascism is the only thing that can help them". Maybe it is about people who don't want to be called fascists, for example.

But interesting to know that the empathy training is only for diverse and identity people. OK, not really surprising, but glad you admit it.

Re: Update on an Employee Matter

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In HN, I've been seeing way more comments supporting the "freedom of speech" for those who stormed the Capitol, compared to other sites. (That might tell more about what sites I visit, but whatever.) So far I chalked it up to the strong libertarian bent of an average HN user - some people really believe in absolute freedom of speech. While I don't necessarily agree, I can live with that. ...And then I see multiple co…

Whenever reddit deletes a bunch of subs, HN contains lively free speech debate about how horrible it is they closed the Trump one.

I have yet to see free speech advocates to complain about the left/feminist/communist/whatever one. (I am usually fine with all of them being closed.)

Re: Update on an Employee Matter

#164

In HN, I've been seeing way more comments supporting the "freedom of speech" for those who stormed the Capitol, compared to other sites. (That might tell more about what sites I visit, but whatever.) So far I chalked it up to the strong libertarian bent of an average HN user - some people really believe in absolute freedom of speech. While I don't necessarily agree, I can live with that. ...And then I see multiple co…

I personally think there's a big difference between on-the-job speech vs off-the-job. That may account for some of the disparity you're seeing.

Re: Update on an Employee Matter

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When you fire a Jewish employee for (rightfully) calling out that Nazis were present at last weeks insurrection, but not folks who make jokes like “Hitler gave the Jews free healthcare” (per the Verge article another commenter posted), there better be consequences at the VP level

Yeah, Github sure sounds like a lovely company to work for, and tone is set at the top.

Hacker News in 2021: The above comment is grey.

Re: Update on an Employee Matter

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In HN, I've been seeing way more comments supporting the "freedom of speech" for those who stormed the Capitol, compared to other sites. (That might tell more about what sites I visit, but whatever.) So far I chalked it up to the strong libertarian bent of an average HN user - some people really believe in absolute freedom of speech. While I don't necessarily agree, I can live with that. ...And then I see multiple co…

In my experience, HN is pretty far on the techno-libertarian side, but with a decent amount of pro-social justice thought. It's actually a pretty interesting mix but not without its drawbacks.

This is not a comment on the 6th specifically, and actually I don't think you can apply it to the 6th, but if you are only in favor of speech you agree with, or even just speech you don't actively find abhorrent, you're not pro-free speech. You're not even indifferent, you're actively anti-free speech. Free speech is for speech you hate wish was never spoken. There's a reason the only speech you can be arrested for in the US is speech that directly harms others physically (or has a high likelihood to).

Re: Update on an Employee Matter

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> Our head of HR has taken personal accountability and resigned from GitHub yesterday morning, Saturday, January 16th. You don't normally see consequences for senior officers for this kind of mistake. I would be curious to know who this person was and if they had any odd political affiliations.

Seems to me that the head of HR got thrown under the bus to protect other members of the exec.

Re: Update on an Employee Matter

#168

Context for people who don’t know what this is referring to: https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-github-backlash-je... Kudos to them for this. Screenshots of the conversations leaked [1], and there is no ambiguity as to who was in the wrong here. Note the timestamp on the thread — the comment happened well after the terrorists had invaded the Capitol. Hopefully whoever said “nazis gave the jews free healthcare”…

There’s no ambiguity if the firing was only about the original comment - that screenshot however is missing possible further comments from the fired employee. If the discussion turned disrespectful (e.g. personal attacks), that could explain why HR did the firing yet had no issue with other instances of the word “nazi”. Still probably not a justified firing, but would make more sense.

Re: Update on an Employee Matter

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post #55

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fwiw, the healthcare joke was tongue-in-cheek for the discussion which, ironically enough, was also about Republicans in 2014. They were discussing how many on the right compared Obamacare to Nazism and how disgusting it was to make that comparison.

Oh wow, that's taken way out of context in at least The Verge article then. Not actually a joke at Jewish expense at all, at least other than not mentioning it at all.

All these leaked screenshots, quotes, etc are almost certainly missing full context.

Re: Update on an Employee Matter

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There innumerable (I do not say this lightly) cases where election procedures were compromised. This election is a standing act of illegal and fraudulent action by county-level and state-level election authorities.

This is not a debated aspect of the argument. Ask me, and I will show you just a slice of proof that would warrant a forensic audit (esp if the shoe were on the other foot).

Now, for Mr Friedman to call these great patriots numbering the tens of thousands that spent their own money to support the president in D.C. as, categorically, Nazis is ludicrous.

It's an injustice to these American patriots, and to those that actually suffered under the Third Reich.

This is a joke at this point if you refer to you grandpa who wears Trump shirts as a "Nazi". It's a pure joke.

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