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Re: Apple's MacBook revival plan: Bring back old features

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Post by bradlys »

vemv wrote: post #181

Honestly I've never understood why laptops are so strongly associated with developer culture. They are inefficient and conflated machines - two things that tend to be contradictory with software engineering. More practically, many people find themselves completely dependent on Apple's design whims. Mac Pros (or server racks in general) are closer to the kinds of machines that we deploy to (they use Xeons for one thin…

It’s so that engineering orgs can get you to work from home in addition to the workplace. They force you to take the laptop with you and then will try to make you work from home.

That is the only reason. Everything else is just seasoning.

Re: Apple's MacBook revival plan: Bring back old features

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Post by astrostl »

BluSyn wrote: post #14

My controversial hot take-- I have never needed an SD card, and have gone all-in on USB-C. I will be very disappointed if they add back in USB-A/HDMI/SD ports, or remove USB-C charging in favor of proprietary charge port. Sounds like unnecessary feature bloat. Please just do MagSage + USB-C, so I can maintain my one-cable-for-everything, making traveling lighter and simpler. Here's my counter argument to all those th…

The value of a given port corresponds to the ubiquity and lifespan of the things that plug into it. HDMI is not going anywhere in the corporate world for the forseeable future. As for MagSafe, as long as they keep some USB-C ports you will presumably be able to charge that way too.

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Post by u678u »

vemv wrote: post #181

Honestly I've never understood why laptops are so strongly associated with developer culture. They are inefficient and conflated machines - two things that tend to be contradictory with software engineering. More practically, many people find themselves completely dependent on Apple's design whims. Mac Pros (or server racks in general) are closer to the kinds of machines that we deploy to (they use Xeons for one thin…

The most common response is often working from a coffee shop or plane. I dont understand those either, how can you concentrate in a coffee shop? How many flights do you really take? - get a book.

Re: Apple's MacBook revival plan: Bring back old features

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Post by strogonoff »

ZanyProgrammer wrote: post #397
simonh wrote: post #279

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the other hand Macs are heavily used by audio and video professionals, the Pro in the name doesn’t just refer to developers.

In fact doesn’t nearly every story on Mac dissatisfaction always have someone mentioning that high end A/V users are the real Mac target demo, not devs?

SD card support is largely meaningless to high-end professionals, few use memory cards and even fewer would bother with a built-in reader in professional work. There’s tethering (wired or wireless) for studio photography, cameras with built-in Wi-Fi and Bluetooth for when you’re on the go, high-speed SSDs or CFexpress cards for 8K 10-bit footage, etc.

Hobbyists, vloggers, even mid-range professionals (wedding photographers et al.) might use SD cards, but that’s pretty far from high end.

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Post by p_l »

Godel_unicode wrote: post #415
p_l wrote: post #358

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The reality was that quite often the dongles did not work properly. Using official Apple USB-C AV dongle (with USB-C, USB-A and HDMI) had people scrambling for "oh, maybe this one will work", screens randomly not displaying, etc. I personally strongly suspect that they had a broken batch of dongles, seeing as how trying to use them on other systems often resulted in display detection issues too. Then there was of cou…

Apple dongles normally work really well, which combines with the RDF to make people not believe stories like this until it happens to them. Paraphrasing what I said in another comment, dongles are flaky. If yours aren't, congratulations, but that doesn't mean other people are lying or that they don't know how things work.

That's why I suspected they had a whole flaky batch - the dongles were too reliably not working for different case.

But your random non-technical person only faced the fact that the chances of quickly setting up a meeting went down if the presenter needed a dongle.

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Post by gorbypark »

anthonyaykut wrote: post #148
BluSyn wrote: post #14

My controversial hot take-- I have never needed an SD card, and have gone all-in on USB-C. I will be very disappointed if they add back in USB-A/HDMI/SD ports, or remove USB-C charging in favor of proprietary charge port. Sounds like unnecessary feature bloat. Please just do MagSage + USB-C, so I can maintain my one-cable-for-everything, making traveling lighter and simpler. Here's my counter argument to all those th…

I’m in the market for a reliable single 2xUSB-C power brick — could I ask which one you’re using?

I have a 65W Baseus 2x USB-C with 1x USB3 port charger that's pretty good. The only problem with it is that when a device is plugged in and it "splits" the wattage between the ports, it temporarily cuts off the power (I'm talking like 100-200ms or so) to the devices. I had some issues trying to power a Thunderbolt 3 dock with it. Anything with a battery is no issue, though (phone, laptop, etc). I also assume any multi port charger is going to have similar issues, all the ones I've seen do the "wattage splitting" thing when there's more than one device plugged in.

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Post by agumonkey »

aphextron wrote: post #143
AndriyKunitsyn wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is “unnecessary feature bloat”? Do you think something like “gosh, I _hate_ all these additional ports” about MBP 2015? There’s a reason it is still holds (not much, but) some value on second-hand market.

> There’s a reason it is still holds (not much, but) some value on second-hand market. Not much? A base model 15" 2015 RMBP is still easily $800+ on eBay. Unheard of for a 6 year old laptop.

Yeah that's the price of a mid level 2020 laptop methinks

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Post by oneplane »

yarcob wrote: post #381

The nice thing about my 2015 Macbook Pro is that it's useful without any accessories. I can just throw it in a bag and walk out the door. It's got enough battery life that I usually don't need to bring a charger. It has all the ports that I ever need. I can hook it up to a projector with the built in HDMI port, I can put in the SD card from my camera, or I can quickly copy files from someones thumb drive. I don't nee…

I have the 2015, 2017 and a 2020 and they are pretty much all the same that way. None need a power source for normal workdays, I don't have a camera that needs to have memory cards swapped out, and all presenter displays are either ClickShare or AppleTV and thus wireless. I don't accept random mass storage devices, and for those few times that I do want one I use a multiport adapter which works with both the 2015 and all the newer ones (USB-C and USB-A connectors), which I also use for when WiFi is down and you need Ethernet. It's not much bigger than any Ethernet adapter anyway.
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