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Re: Update on an Employee Matter

#101
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The employee made comments on internal slack channels warning their coworkers in DC to be careful because there were a large number of nazis at the Capitol. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ery62NKUcAY6DlR?format=jpg&name=...

Further: the employee was seen to be mischaracterising the protestors/rioters (take your pic) as nazis. The claims 'there were literal nazi flags' (see https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/8a1wytwIU2Ic52sok2ly14RUQNM=... ) seem to based on the very broad assumption that Confederate, Kekistan, upside down US flags, 'release the kraken' etc flags are Nazis. See https://qz.com/1953366/decoding-the-pro-trump-insurrectionis...…

You can be both of these things. The guy in the Camp Auschwitz hoodie can be a nazi and a protestor!

Re: Update on an Employee Matter

#102

Its a little frightening to see purportedly intelligent people running around talking about, "nazis" invading the capital. The delusional, unhinged rhetoric that has been mainstreamed is another symptom of our fraying society and the widespread mental illness that has resulted. There are numerous accurate (and pejorative) terms that can be used to describe the mob on January 6th, but they were not members of the Nati…

I grew up in a rural area in the south and seeing people with confederate flags, engaging in blatant racism, and espousing ideas like neo-nazim wasn't unusual. What was unusual was to see these things normally seen in sparsely populated, largely homogeneous in terms of background areas in the middle of the nation's capitol.

Re: Update on an Employee Matter

#103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They didn't call all protestors nazis in the slack message. They just said there were nazis protesting which is factually true.

My best attempt at equivelent from the right would be "stay safe, the Thugs are rioting" during a BLM protest. If that doesn't seem fair and feels condescending to you, then you can probably imagine how some on the right feel.

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Re: Update on an Employee Matter

#104
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The employee made comments on internal slack channels warning their coworkers in DC to be careful because there were a large number of nazis at the Capitol. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ery62NKUcAY6DlR?format=jpg&name=...

Further: the employee was seen to be mischaracterising the protestors/rioters (take your pic) as nazis. The claims 'there were literal nazi flags' (see https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/8a1wytwIU2Ic52sok2ly14RUQNM=... ) seem to based on the very broad assumption that Confederate, Kekistan, upside down US flags, 'release the kraken' etc flags are Nazis. See https://qz.com/1953366/decoding-the-pro-trump-insurrectionis...…

There is lots of evidence that there were nazis among the insurrectionists. Shirts with references to Aushwitch, "six million wasn't enough" etc.

How much research have you done before reaching your very definitive and incorrect conclusion?

Re: Update on an Employee Matter

#106

Its a little frightening to see purportedly intelligent people running around talking about, "nazis" invading the capital. The delusional, unhinged rhetoric that has been mainstreamed is another symptom of our fraying society and the widespread mental illness that has resulted. There are numerous accurate (and pejorative) terms that can be used to describe the mob on January 6th, but they were not members of the Nati…

Are you just willfully ignorant?

Re: Update on an Employee Matter

#107
Unrelated meta-question:

In the screenshots in the article posted by bmiller2 https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/15/22232766/github-employees...

You can see something I honestly dislike very much in discussions - a "bombing" of emoji reactions during discussions.

For instance, the "I think this comment is completely appropriate" has 35 "+"-sign emojis. I find this concept of "reaction bulldozing" to cause any discussion to be shut down prematurely. Adding a reaction like that is so simple to do and doesn't require any effort, it's very easy to do, but actually adding your own opinion or nuanced explanation is very much harder, especially when the other side then already has so many "reaction emojis". I feel like the "signal-to-effort" ratio is completely skewed by this. You'd have to be a very assertive person to pierce through it and offer your, possibly only slightly, different opinion after seeing this.

I'm not sure what exactly it is that I dislike about it - does it stifle discussion? Does it diminish diversity of opinions? I think it does, if you're not early enough to give a dissenting opinion then it's you against the group, and I'm guessing a lot of people at that point would rather not react at all anymore.

Am I alone in thinking this? Is there a solution for this? I often encounter this phenomenon in discussions with engineers, not just with contentious topics like nazi's, but also e.g. styleguide or architectural discussions. I hope there's a word for it so I can learn how to deal with it, because currently I really can't pinpoint it.

Re: Update on an Employee Matter

#108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They didn't call all protestors nazis in the slack message. They just said there were nazis protesting which is factually true.

My best attempt at equivelent from the right would be "stay safe, the Thugs are rioting" during a BLM protest. If that doesn't seem fair and feels condescending to you, then you can probably imagine how some on the right feel.

You really went for "thug"? Instead of, say, the equivalent far-left blood-soaked ideology of communism? I think it's clear how you feel about BLM.

Re: Update on an Employee Matter

#109

Well they left all the juicy parts out Context: https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/15/22232766/github-employees... I can’t believe people talk like this on a work public channel.

Independent from the events: The way Github employees communicate with each other makes me kind of uncomfortable.

In the companies I've worked here in Europe, such discussions just would not happen in a cooperate chat room.

Re: Update on an Employee Matter

#110

Its a little frightening to see purportedly intelligent people running around talking about, "nazis" invading the capital. The delusional, unhinged rhetoric that has been mainstreamed is another symptom of our fraying society and the widespread mental illness that has resulted. There are numerous accurate (and pejorative) terms that can be used to describe the mob on January 6th, but they were not members of the Nati…

Are you just willfully ignorant?

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