Is there any info on what actually happened?
Update on an Employee Matter
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#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
This isn't politics really as I see it, it's a heads up to fellow coworkers about a factually dangerous situation in their area. There were factually neo-nazis running about DC causing havoc.
I didn't realise they were all in DC, I thought GitHub was in the valley?
They’re remote, this was said in their DC slack channel.
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#53I've just seen the screenshots from https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/15/22232766/github-employees... You just shouldn't be speaking like that in a company Slack channel. Politics should really not be discussed at work, and especially not in a public Slack channel. It's not the right place for it. It makes me not want to work there if they are discussing politics all day in a public Slack channel
Rules are different now. If you’re making a negative statement regarding anyone on the tight, it seems to get more support than derision.
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#54I am afraid to ask this but can someone explain the "nazi joke" to me?
It wasn’t a joke. It was quite literal. Stay safe, fellow employees, there are literal goose stepping Nazis in the streets.
How do you know from this little context? People are so jumpy nowadays, which will lead just to misunderstandings and bad decisions/witch hunts.
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#55Context for people who don’t know what this is referring to: https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-github-backlash-je... Kudos to them for this. Screenshots of the conversations leaked [1], and there is no ambiguity as to who was in the wrong here. Note the timestamp on the thread — the comment happened well after the terrorists had invaded the Capitol. Hopefully whoever said “nazis gave the jews free healthcare”…
fwiw, the healthcare joke was tongue-in-cheek for the discussion which, ironically enough, was also about Republicans in 2014. They were discussing how many on the right compared Obamacare to Nazism and how disgusting it was to make that comparison.
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#56> Our head of HR has taken personal accountability and resigned from GitHub yesterday morning, Saturday, January 16th. You don't normally see consequences for senior officers for this kind of mistake. I would be curious to know who this person was and if they had any odd political affiliations.
It's weird to me that this was the head of HR's mistake (sort of implied) and not a more junior manager (both in reality, and in who usually gets the blame even if it's a senior manager's fuck-up). There is some unnamed VP of engineering who may have kicked off the process with HR. I don't know.
I'm glad GH (1) took another look at the firing, (2) realized they were mistaken, and (3) mea culpa'd publicly.
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#57There's detail missing, so it's hard to be sure, but this just seems like HR incompetence more than anything else, and it's right that the head of HR left.
Companies shouldn't have political discussions in work forums, so the comment about Nazis was inappropriate. But was it a firing offense? They do talk about a "pattern of behaviour", but this comment can't trigger a firing. If they had just reinforced that work forums aren't the places for political discussion, that might have been the end of it.
Now they have to put out a virtue-signalling report about racism and actually encouraging people to discuss politics in internal forums.
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#58Well they left all the juicy parts out Context: https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/15/22232766/github-employees... I can’t believe people talk like this on a work public channel.
> The employee was chastised for using divisive language, according to news first reported by Business Insider.
For calling, erm, Nazis Nazis? (and yes, given the photos of the event that monicker can be applied to some people present there)
No wonder the head of HR quit, this is such top level corporate PR BS that it's hard to justify.
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you show us evidence of the nazis? I can't find anything beyond somewhat obscure links between eg "Don't tread on me", "Release the kraken", the OK symbol and nazism when searching.
From a right wing newspaper so you can't claim liberal bias: https://nypost.com/2021/01/06/neo-nazis-among-protesters-who...
I wasn't planning to (I'm a liberal) - just asking for a link. Fair enough, the man with the 'camp Auschwitz' hoodie is a nazi.