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Re: “Tencent QQ caught scraping all browser history on Windows”

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If China wants to use protectionism to wage digital economy warfare, let's respond in kind. No more Wechat, TikTok, Alipay, or League of Legends or Valorant, until China gives equal treatment to foreign internet firms. Note: Valorant installs a kernel driver as part of the "anti-cheat" system; described by many as a rootkit: https://www.osnews.com/story/131665/riot-games-maker-of-leag... Valorant's parent company is…

This behavior isn’t unique to Chinese companies.

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Re: “Tencent QQ caught scraping all browser history on Windows”

#62
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

QQ comes with a bundled QQProtect.exe that can't be killed, QQ simply refuses to run without it.

Can't you sandbox both though?

Unsure, but multiple Tencent products ship with various "protects" (like TenProtect) that are kernel level rootkits that start at boot.

Re: “Tencent QQ caught scraping all browser history on Windows”

#63
post #46

Looks like the author deleted the tweet out of fear. > I just noticed that someone linked my previous tweet on HN. Sorry I have to delete it in case something come after me https://twitter.com/CodeColorist/status/1350798973431283712?...

Mentioning the author deleted it out of fear and then posting his Twitter handle might not be a great combination here.

Re: “Tencent QQ caught scraping all browser history on Windows”

#64
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article says "no, QQ is not stealing your history, you just need to disable the rule and it stops". I guess that's how they cover for themselves.

Nowhere does the article say that. Please don't spread made-up bullshit like this.

Maybe you could consider that I didn't just make that up. I have a Chinese person with me, albeit non tech person, that read it for me. I could have added that "apprently it says this", but your phrasing is uncalled for.

Re: “Tencent QQ caught scraping all browser history on Windows”

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nowhere does the article say that. Please don't spread made-up bullshit like this.

Maybe you could consider that I didn't just make that up. I have a Chinese person with me, albeit non tech person, that read it for me. I could have added that "apprently it says this", but your phrasing is uncalled for.

I happen to know the language so don’t need a Chinese person with me. And I can tell you it doesn’t say that, or anything close to that, apparently or not; it’s not a long post so it’s not like I would miss anything. If you disagree, point to the specific sentence and we can have a discussion.

Re: “Tencent QQ caught scraping all browser history on Windows”

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post #5

If China wants to use protectionism to wage digital economy warfare, let's respond in kind. No more Wechat, TikTok, Alipay, or League of Legends or Valorant, until China gives equal treatment to foreign internet firms. Note: Valorant installs a kernel driver as part of the "anti-cheat" system; described by many as a rootkit: https://www.osnews.com/story/131665/riot-games-maker-of-leag... Valorant's parent company is…

Too bad the government can't ban a communications platform under the First Amendment. Just give the offending companies huge fines (billions of dollars) instead.

Re: “Tencent QQ caught scraping all browser history on Windows”

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post #27

Apart from a lot of other issues mentioned here, this looks to me for a good argument of app sandboxing. It is a thing on mobile but not much on the desktop.

No, please no. Make sand-boxing an optional feature the user has control over. Sort of like containerized tabs in Firefox. Not all apps have legitimate reasons for accessing your hard drive, but I'd argue that 90% of them that do, really need to. Let the user decide.

Re: “Tencent QQ caught scraping all browser history on Windows”

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post #27

Apart from a lot of other issues mentioned here, this looks to me for a good argument of app sandboxing. It is a thing on mobile but not much on the desktop.

No, please no. Make sand-boxing an optional feature the user has control over. Sort of like containerized tabs in Firefox. Not all apps have legitimate reasons for accessing your hard drive, but I'd argue that 90% of them that do, really need to. Let the user decide.

The mobile sandboxing parent comment mentioned lets the user decide: an app that requests permission to access files triggers an OS dialog asking if the user wants to allow the app to access them.
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