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Apple's MacBook revival plan: Bring back old features

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Cool! On top of this if they would reintroduce the headphone jack on the iPhone, they would completely redeem themselves in my books.

Now that’s just crazy talk. Apple? Never. That is one mistake they will ever walk back on. It took a LOT of courage[0] to remove it. [0]. https://splinternews.com/profiles-in-courage-the-product-man...

I don’t care that they removed the analog in favor of digital, I'm annoyed that it’s just. One. Port. Give me two lightning ports so I can use headphones and charge without resorting to a dongle and I’ll go along with it. As it is I haven’t bought a new iPhone since my 6S plus.

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That sounds like a terrible idea. Why have a proprietary charge port if it can also charge with USB-C?

Why would having multiple options be bad? It doesn't turn the usb c port into a useless port or anything?

> Why would having multiple options be bad?

Because this is how you end up with a Homer Car of a device.

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My controversial hot take-- I have never needed an SD card, and have gone all-in on USB-C. I will be very disappointed if they add back in USB-A/HDMI/SD ports, or remove USB-C charging in favor of proprietary charge port. Sounds like unnecessary feature bloat. Please just do MagSage + USB-C, so I can maintain my one-cable-for-everything, making traveling lighter and simpler. Here's my counter argument to all those th…

Do you take photos or videos with a camera other than an iDevice? I do, and I have to use a dongle every time to transfer data. Those wifi SD cards are a joke. I agree that they should not remove USB-C charging. People by now have powerbanks, or USB-C ports in their car that would stop working. However, my daily driver still is the 87W charger that came with the MBP, for the simple reason that it’s the fastest option…

No, I don't. So why should I sacrifice space for my battery to accommodate those who do?

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This is a really exciting development! Everything I miss from the 2013 MacBook Pro - no final word on what ports are being added or if they are bringing back the SD slot, but MagSafe, a working keyboard, and an escape key are themselves welcome. The touch bar ended up being completely useless except for muting/unmuting zoom calls and smashing the left hand side seventeen times in a row until it finally registers as a…

If you are a vi user, you could consider using CTRL-[ instead of escape. I find this to be more comfortable and quicker to use anyways and you wouldn't need to use the touch bar anymore

I like mapping jk (and kj) to escape. For lefties I imagine df (and fd) would be more convenient. Both sequences are unlikely to appear in any words. They're on the home keys, so least effort to move your hands. https://vim.fandom.com/wiki/Avoid_the_escape_key

Re: Apple's MacBook revival plan: Bring back old features

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My controversial hot take-- I have never needed an SD card, and have gone all-in on USB-C. I will be very disappointed if they add back in USB-A/HDMI/SD ports, or remove USB-C charging in favor of proprietary charge port. Sounds like unnecessary feature bloat. Please just do MagSage + USB-C, so I can maintain my one-cable-for-everything, making traveling lighter and simpler. Here's my counter argument to all those th…

I have a MacBook Air 2012 with an SD card reader. It has a 256GB SSD drive, and a 1 TB SD Card inside that I use for storing photos, video, music, etc. essentially everything that does not need fast storage. This laptop was only meant to be a 1 year temporary solution, so I’ve been waiting 9 years to upgrade. I’ve yet to find a new reasonably priced MacBook with 1,256Gb of built in storage. Carrying an external drive…

Apple could just make 2TB MacBook price cheaper instead of bringing back SD card reader into new models.

I didn't like having only 256GB SSD either in my Razer laptop and just bought a 2TB one, changed it in a few hours myself, and never thought about SSD space since.

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My controversial hot take-- I have never needed an SD card, and have gone all-in on USB-C. I will be very disappointed if they add back in USB-A/HDMI/SD ports, or remove USB-C charging in favor of proprietary charge port. Sounds like unnecessary feature bloat. Please just do MagSage + USB-C, so I can maintain my one-cable-for-everything, making traveling lighter and simpler. Here's my counter argument to all those th…

I agree all the way up to the 16” pro. When you hit that form factor it now has plenty of room for more ports and I find them useful.

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An extra port is not inconvenient - you just won't use it. A missing port is SUPER inconvenient. Can't tell you how annoying it is to require a USB-A dongle or adapter, same with HDMI.

The extra port competes with USB-C. If Apple wants to make USB-C more valuable to users, they must ensure companies make more products for it and, therefore, remove such redundant ports. I have an HDMI monitor connected to my MacBook via a USB-C to HDMI/USB dongle, which also charges the computer, keyboard and trackpad, and another another via a UDB-C to DisplayPort cable. I've been using my SDcard based camera less…

>The extra port competes with USB-C. If Apple wants to make USB-C more valuable to users, they must ensure companies make more products for it and, therefore, remove such redundant ports.

The userbase of all tech products is too big for this to be reasonable now. This attitude was only successful during a time when fewer people overall each owned fewer devices individually. USB-A won and it will be around forever. HDMI won and it will be around forever.

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My controversial hot take-- I have never needed an SD card, and have gone all-in on USB-C. I will be very disappointed if they add back in USB-A/HDMI/SD ports, or remove USB-C charging in favor of proprietary charge port. Sounds like unnecessary feature bloat. Please just do MagSage + USB-C, so I can maintain my one-cable-for-everything, making traveling lighter and simpler. Here's my counter argument to all those th…

Apple is pretty smart when adding features most of the time. Maybe they just add strips of magnets to a usb-c so you can still use the port with a normal usb-c cable and still benefit of magsafe with the proprietary adapter. Anyway, I did enjoy MagSafe when it was there but I don't think Apple will go back. They'd rather focus on making sure you only have to charge your laptop at night.

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An extra port is not inconvenient - you just won't use it. A missing port is SUPER inconvenient. Can't tell you how annoying it is to require a USB-A dongle or adapter, same with HDMI.

> An extra port is not inconvenient An extra port: - is e-waste for everyone who never uses it - reduces the rigidity of the case - increases costs - adds weight - takes up space - lets in dust and potentially liquid spills You can see why people who never use them say ‘no thanks’. Isn’t it better that the people who do want them take on the costs of the port via a dongle?

- e-waste? Perhaps a microscopic amount of circuitry is added.

- case rigidity? The 2015 MBP case is fine.

- increases cost? No proof of this at all.

- adds weight? Again, a microscopic amount of weight to the laptop, far offset by the weight of dongles.

- takes up space? There's plenty of space to add this.

- lets in dust and liquid? The keyboard is a far more likely culprit.

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