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The first blue pigment discovered in 200 years is now commercially available

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Re: The first blue pigment discovered in 200 years is now commercially available

#101

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Mercury amalgam (silver, tin, zinc, copper, etc) fillings.

There is a strong correlation between incidence of mercury amalgam and alzheimer's. Obviously correlation is not causation, but I'd still be wary of putting mercury in my body...

[citation required]

Re: The first blue pigment discovered in 200 years is now commercially available

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post #79

These people really didnt think about how people are going to pronounce their pigment? YInMn - what a monster of a name. In the olden days at least people gave colors great names that were easy to prounounce and provided them personality. Ultramarine, prussian blue.. Even vantablack has a nice rhythm. It's nice as techinical name, I guess, but I'd hope they have some better brand name they are going by.

It seems to me like it'd have a Chinese-like pronunciation, that is Yin Min.

Tangentially, as a non-native speaker, "ultramarine" has a fairly similar amount of information encoded in the name as "Yinmn"--pretty much zero. So, the two names ("ultramarine" vs "yinmn") are pretty much equivalent to eme, personally.

Goes to show that naming things "properly" is difficult (I suspect it's impossible actually).

Re: The first blue pigment discovered in 200 years is now commercially available

#104
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If I was working in a lab and my experiment turned a deep blue I'd say "cool!" and move on. I didn't know that discovering a new color was something meaningful. I wonder who told these scientists "stop what you're doing you've just discovered a new pigment".

Do you have a chemistry background?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IG_Farben

Do you know what the name means?

Re: The first blue pigment discovered in 200 years is now commercially available

#105

I've bought several hundred tubes of paint in last 20 years. I've seen artists gravitating towards more expensive paints as a sign of better pigmentation which is completely misplaced. Pricing of pigments is largely a complex equation including marketing by paint manufacturers to pose Cadmiums and Chromiums as "premium" quality paints. The truth couldn't be farther from that. Modern synthetic pigments are superior, s…

See:

> In economics and consumer theory, a Giffen good is a product that people consume more of as the price rises and vice versa

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giffen_good

Re: The first blue pigment discovered in 200 years is now commercially available

#106

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What about Barium? Water-soluble barium compounds are toxic while the insoluble barium sulfate is used as radiocontrast agent. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barium_sulfate#Radiocontrast_a...

Well sulfates in general tend to be highly insoluble in water, and therefore biologically inert, so I think this is still kind of a cherry-picked example

Isn’t cherry-picking kind of the point here?

Re: The first blue pigment discovered in 200 years is now commercially available

#107
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Anyone here have suggestions for viewing this and other novel pigments?

I was googling around, and apparently there are some shirts marketed as "yinmn blue":

https://www.scotch-soda.com/fi/en/men/shirts/long-sleeve-100...

I am somewhat dubious though if that is genuinely yinmn, but interesting nevertheless that they are marketing it as such.

Re: The first blue pigment discovered in 200 years is now commercially available

#108

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Chemical reactions (such as forming it into a pigment) greatly change the biological effects substances have. For example, you probably shouldn't drink OH- or H2O2, even though it is made of the same atoms as water. Just because the pure elemental form is toxic doesn't make compounds with it toxic as well.

I don't think that is a very good example. A better example would be is there a safe compound with lead or arsenic or mercury (known toxic elements) you would want to take into your body?

Why does it need to be safe to 'take into your body'? I'm not going to drink lead paint or the turpentine used to clean brushes either.

Re: The first blue pigment discovered in 200 years is now commercially available

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post #79

These people really didnt think about how people are going to pronounce their pigment? YInMn - what a monster of a name. In the olden days at least people gave colors great names that were easy to prounounce and provided them personality. Ultramarine, prussian blue.. Even vantablack has a nice rhythm. It's nice as techinical name, I guess, but I'd hope they have some better brand name they are going by.

Crayola is calling the crayon made with this color "Bluetiful", does that help? Wikipedia also refers to it as "Oregon Blue, Mas Blue, or Yin Min Blue" so I think it will be commonly called something else.

Anyways, you're on HN, you know geeks shouldn't name things, but they do anyways. Think "XBox" as a perfect example.

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