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Re: JingOS: Linux Distro Inspired by the iPad

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Post by nanis »

hnarn wrote: post #99
popcorncowboy wrote: post #94

Unfortunate name [0] :| or perhaps it was intended? Very clever then. 0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jingoism

The company is called Jingling which seems to be a Chinese city, so I highly doubt they named it after some obscure English expression.

> I highly doubt they named it after some obscure English expression.

It's not that obscure if a nonnative speaker's first reaction is to think "why would anyone want to call a distro by that name"?

It doesn't matter that there is a perfectly reasonable alternative motivation for it ... It's just, you'll never find me wanting to be heard saying "I think you should use jingos!"[1]

Interestingly, it turns out, someone else thought it would be a good brand name too.[2] So you are not alone.

[1]: https://www.bennetyee.org/http_webster.cgi?isindex=jingo&met... [2]: https://buyjingos.com/

Re: JingOS: Linux Distro Inspired by the iPad

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Post by gammalost »

emteycz wrote: post #136
gammalost wrote: post #134

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Looked up that book on two different online stores in Sweden cdon and bokus. On both of them the book had zero reviews. Are swedish people not literate?

I am very sure Pratchett is well known even in Sweden. What are the reviews for Romeo and Juliet? And again - not knowing Pratchett doesn't say that one isn't literate. The statement is "most genuinely literate people will know Pratchett". Stop being so defensive for nothing, nobody is attacking your intellect here...

My bad, meant adlibris not bokus. Bokus has 3 reviews on it. But here's the difference on adlibris.

https://www.adlibris.com/se/bok/romeo-and-juliet-97804862755...

https://www.adlibris.com/se/bok/jingo-9781473200258

Re: JingOS: Linux Distro Inspired by the iPad

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Post by Grustaf »

GordonS wrote: post #133
Grustaf wrote: post #129

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You can’t open an issue of The Economist without seeing Trump or some dictator being accused of jingoism.

And how common is it to be a reader of The Economist?

Extremely common, it’s the standard magazine for economics and politics.

Re: JingOS: Linux Distro Inspired by the iPad

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Post by Grustaf »

usr1106 wrote: post #140
GordonS wrote: post #133

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And how common is it to be a reader of The Economist?

I have used English as my daily working language in software development for over 20 years and had never heard it before. Well, we don't discuss a lot of politics in international teams, that's a taboo topic especially when working with Chinese colleagues. And for Trump we have only one word, that I don't want to repeat here.

The English needed to discuss software is pretty limited.

Re: JingOS: Linux Distro Inspired by the iPad

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Post by wilsonrocks »

ynx wrote: post #135
hnarn wrote: post #110

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Why isn’t it obscure? Because you know it?

I heard the word throughout my (American) upbringing - it might not be used as much internationally but it's definitely not obscure by any stretch.

I think it might be used more in places that have history with European (maybe just British?) Colonialism.

Re: JingOS: Linux Distro Inspired by the iPad

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Post by Grustaf »

gammalost wrote: post #134
emteycz wrote: post #127

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Genuinely literate people mostly know Pratchett, it's a extremely well known author consistently topping charts whose books are available in nearly every language of the world, very popular in Russia as well as Finland as well as Czechia and elsewhere. It shocks me (a Czech person) you'd claim otherwise, some of his books are actually required reading here - we read foreign literature just as much as local. It never…

Looked up that book on two different online stores in Sweden cdon and bokus. On both of them the book had zero reviews. Are swedish people not literate?

How many books at all have reviews on Bokus? Never seen any.

Not that I’d want to put Pratchett in the literary canon, just making a point about Bokus.

Re: JingOS: Linux Distro Inspired by the iPad

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Post by usr1106 »

monsieurbanana wrote: post #74
deaddodo wrote: post #28

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I don't know if there's any shared code, but it looks like it's related to this Chinese project: https://fydeos.com/

Who from HN would install a Chinese OS by choice? We have our own privacy issues from western companies, but at least we can hold them (minimally) accountable.

Well, if it is truly open source and has reasonably reproducible builds, I would absolutely use it.

Unfortunately most Chinese suppliers don't take their GPLv2 obligations very serious when it comes to Linux kernel drivers for example. If these new(?) players do, I can only applaud it.

Re: JingOS: Linux Distro Inspired by the iPad

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Post by dathinab »

This looks like a legal nightmare.

I mean there are all kinds of protections of visual thinks like e.g. design patents.

I would be highly surprised if this doesn't violate at least one or two apple hold still valid design patents or other protection mechanisms.

Because lets be honest design/visual wise it's less iPad/iOs inspired but a bland clone of the iOs design on iPad with some/many minor but in the grater picture irrelevant changes.

Re: JingOS: Linux Distro Inspired by the iPad

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Post by nanis »

emteycz wrote: post #121
bbekiaris wrote: post #108

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Well in my experience people who don't complain about the App store never used any other app store in their life. For what I know they even think that the app store is Apple's invention.

Because it actually is... Android Market was introduced months after App Store. Obviously programmers know that fundamentally it's extension of some ideas from the Linux world, but that is very irrelevant to the users, and the basics of "download an application from a registry" are not what makes the great App Store experience.

>> even think that the app store is Apple's invention

> Because it actually is...

It most certainly isn't. Based on personal use, Nokia's Download![1] comes to mind.

Looking at an archived page[2]:

>* Browse, preview, buy and download direct to your phone

>* Read descriptions of offers from popular brands and local providers

>* Test free trials of some content and applications before you buy

>* Choose from the latest selection with regular updates

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Download! [2]: https://web.archive.org/web/20061209073944/http://www.nokia....

Re: JingOS: Linux Distro Inspired by the iPad

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Post by footrot »

nanis wrote: post #141
hnarn wrote: post #99

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The company is called Jingling which seems to be a Chinese city, so I highly doubt they named it after some obscure English expression.

> I highly doubt they named it after some obscure English expression. It's not that obscure if a nonnative speaker's first reaction is to think "why would anyone want to call a distro by that name"? It doesn't matter that there is a perfectly reasonable alternative motivation for it ... It's just, you'll never find me wanting to be heard saying "I think you should use jingos!"[1] Interestingly, it turns out, someone…

It's odd though how names just stick. IPad is the ugliest of names and so are most of the other IPrefixed names. I get some of these choices were to break from dictionary words, but I find them vile! In my mind I placate by saying info-pad.

My initial allergy does fade over time. That's advertising/normalisation for you.

Patio Cola.

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