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The first blue pigment discovered in 200 years is now commercially available

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Re: The first blue pigment discovered in 200 years is now commercially available

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"The pigment--which is the first new blue discovered in 200 years--was finally approved by the EPA for use in artists' materials last May." The EPA under the Trump administration.[1][2][3][4] I'd take a wait-and-see approach on this one. Not to mention that there are so many great colors that have seen hundreds of years of human use.. as opposed to this one, which has seen zero. [1] - https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/…

According to the article "YInMn Blue has been approved for US use in industrial coatings and plastics since September 2017", so saying that it has seen zero years of human use is not quite true.

Re: The first blue pigment discovered in 200 years is now commercially available

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post #10

I don’t get it, how would you even discover a pigment? How would you know what you’re looking at is novel?

I don’t get it, how would you even discover a pigment?

I suspect it starts with "this compound has a nice colour, how about its other properties?"

How would you know what you’re looking at is novel?

There are extensive lists of existing pigments.

Re: The first blue pigment discovered in 200 years is now commercially available

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post #10

I don’t get it, how would you even discover a pigment? How would you know what you’re looking at is novel?

Chemistry - either organic or inorganic. We already know what is responsible for the colors of molecules. So you can build new molecule or complex based on those principles and some of them turn out to be scientifically interesting or commercially valuable.

Re: The first blue pigment discovered in 200 years is now commercially available

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post #10

I don’t get it, how would you even discover a pigment? How would you know what you’re looking at is novel?

I think it's possible the discoverers looked at it and said they had never seen such a colour before artificially

Re: The first blue pigment discovered in 200 years is now commercially available

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Is this ok?

>Yttrium is mostly dangerous in the working environment, due to the fact that damps and gasses can be inhaled with air. This can cause lung embolisms, especially during long-term exposure. Yttrium can also cause cancer with humans, as it enlarges the chances of lung cancer when it is inhaled.

>Indium compounds are encountered rarely by most people. All indium compounds should be regarded as highly toxic. Indium compounds damage the heart, kidney, and liver, and may be teratogenic.

https://www.lenntech.com/periodic/elements/y.htm

Re: The first blue pigment discovered in 200 years is now commercially available

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post #10

I don’t get it, how would you even discover a pigment? How would you know what you’re looking at is novel?

Guessing if you’re a chemical engineer it’s one of those properties you’re keeping an eye out for?

Re: The first blue pigment discovered in 200 years is now commercially available

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post #10

I don’t get it, how would you even discover a pigment? How would you know what you’re looking at is novel?

> How would you know what you’re looking at is novel?

Pigments are chemicals. Chemist can use various techniques to analyse a sample and tell what is its composition. After that they search for it in the literature and if they find that the given chemical was not described previously then it is novel. That’s it.

> I don’t get it, how would you even discover a pigment?

The article answers this. “ Chemist Mas Subramanian and his team serendipitously came upon it while conducting experiments with rare earth elements as part of their work with semiconductors.”

That is to say they were experimenting and something turned out as blue. They didn’t expect this so they analyzed the sample and then did a literature search.

Re: The first blue pigment discovered in 200 years is now commercially available

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Anyone here have suggestions for viewing this and other novel pigments?

You can see the blue pigment on an AMD Radeon Pro graphics card. https://www.amd.com/en/graphics/workstation-series

I kind of thought you were kidding, because nobody on earth cares what color their workstation/datacenter graphics card is... but indeed they are using YInMn blue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMXS1A2uBeE And made a video about how cool they are for putting certain paint on a graphics card.

I will continue to be amused because people call Intel "team blue" and AMD "team red", but in this case AMD's product is blue.

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