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Miro 4, the open source music and video player, is released

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Re: Miro 4, the open source music and video player, is released

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Post by woadwarrior01 »

chaosfox wrote: post #4
bruce511 wrote: post #2

Ok, so it's billed (here at least) as the "iTunes Replacement". And it advertises strongly "Converts and syncs to Android" (front and centre on the main page). But I'm really unclear if it'll actually replace iTunes for my iPod Touch. It doesn't say anything about i devices that I can see (except for advertising an iPad app that doesn't seem to be available yet.) So either; a) it doesn't sync my iOS devices in which…

Yea, I felt the same, I only use iTunes today to sync with my iPod and this answer our question( http://www.getmiro.com/using-miro/faq/index.php#q3.7 ), it seems to download torrents though, "why" is my new question..

I used to use Miro, just to download torrents, about a year ago. My use case was to watch Ted Talks. You can search for RSS feeds from within it and once subscribed, select what items it downloads from within a feed. Once a video is watched, It'd be auto-deleted a week later, unless the user decides to keep it. It was actually pretty good. Eventually I ran out of hard disk space and decided to delete all the videos and uninstall Miro.

Re: Miro 4, the open source music and video player, is released

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Post by SwellJoe »

thought_alarm wrote: post #18
SwellJoe wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm Appletarded, and get confused by a lot of Apple software. I don't know how I did it, but it's happened on three separate occasions. Twice on a Windows PC and once on a Mac. Somehow my misunderstanding of the sync feature led to the PC getting what was on the iPod, and the music collection on the PC being deleted. It was many years ago; I eventually learned my lesson and stopped trying to use the damned thing. May…

Syncing your iPod will never delete music from your PC. It is and has always been a one-way sync, PC to iPod, as far as music content is concerned.

Seems like that would be the way things would work, wouldn't it? Again, it's been many years since it happened. The precise details of what happened are a bit fuzzy at this point, as is often the case with very painful events in life. It may have merely "forgotten" where to find all the music and emptied the library. And, it may be that the actual file deletions happened on the iPod rather than the PC (I'm still pretty sure it deleted files on the PC, though). I remember being furious and confused by the behavior of the software...and I remember having to re-rip several albums that I hadn't backed up lately, and I lost a few mixtapes that someone had made for me.

That reminds me of another thing I hated about iTunes...it was always re-indexing its library. All the damned time. Every time I would start it, it would go galloping all over my PC (this was back in the days when I had three or four hard disks, plus a file server) for like 30 minutes.

Regardless of the specifics, iTunes made an enemy for life out of me by being so damned confusing, and so hostile to my existing workflow. I'd been using digital music for a decade before iTunes came along, and iTunes just did not fit into how I'd been using it.

Re: Miro 4, the open source music and video player, is released

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Post by runjake »

"Replacement" is a bit too tough a word.

It doesn't sync with (Apple) mobile devices, the primary reason I stick with iTunes.

It also seems more sluggish and bloated than iTunes on my MBP i7 running 10.6.

Seems like it was released way too prematurely. They could have spent more time building features & polish and utilized their launch hype much better.

Sorting through all the marketing fluff, what are the true advantages of Miro?

Re: Miro 4, the open source music and video player, is released

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Post by jz »

Looks interesting, however I really dislike iTunes' "everything under then sun" motto. If you are looking for something much more lightweight for playing music, check out mpd http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/Music_Player_Daemon_Wiki . There is a really nice Mac mpd client called Theremin: http://theremin.sigterm.eu/

Re: Miro 4, the open source music and video player, is released

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Post by gte910h »

thought_alarm wrote: post #18
SwellJoe wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm Appletarded, and get confused by a lot of Apple software. I don't know how I did it, but it's happened on three separate occasions. Twice on a Windows PC and once on a Mac. Somehow my misunderstanding of the sync feature led to the PC getting what was on the iPod, and the music collection on the PC being deleted. It was many years ago; I eventually learned my lesson and stopped trying to use the damned thing. May…

Syncing your iPod will never delete music from your PC. It is and has always been a one-way sync, PC to iPod, as far as music content is concerned.

No at one time you definitely could select the direction, and I did the same thing, deleting the collection on the PC.

Re: Miro 4, the open source music and video player, is released

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Post by vaporstun »

Horribly annoying that on their website, when I click play on a video then close the popup, the video keeps playing! I tried to view a few clips and they were all playing in the background. Had to re-open the video again and manually press the pause button to stop them.

Otherwise, it looks very similar to DoubleTwist but with the addition of syncing iOS devices. Wish it could drop some of the bloat (for example the torrent client) to make it more compelling. It is very tough though to make things more simplified.

I know everyone has their gripes with iTunes, but it is very tough to have an interface that is complex enough to combine local management of music, management of apps, music, and videos on a device, a store and still allow the user the power to make decisions about individual songs, etc.

I think Apple should diverge them and have the device syncing component as a separate program entirely, but tightly integrated so it can nab playlists, podcasts, etc. from iTunes.

I hear iTunes is horrible on Windows, but on Mac it's not too bad and I can't think of many ways they could really optimize it without stripping features that would piss off a lot of users.

Re: Miro 4, the open source music and video player, is released

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Post by Argorak »

yankcrime wrote: post #6

I'd have hoped that an 'iTunes replacement' would be one that's somewhat less bloaty. I don't see Miro filling that gap, given it includes such nonsense as a BitTorrent client.

Which is actually the greatest feature of Miro. There are a lot of interesting feeds flying around the Miro bittorrent network. For example all confreaks conference videos.

Re: Miro 4, the open source music and video player, is released

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Post by uast23 »

Oh I just read the heading 'iTunes replacement', installed it and plugged in my iPhone to see how it behaves; and ta-da nothing happens! My mistake that I did not read the features, but whatever, why do we want to call it an iTunes replacement when it can't even sync

Re: Miro 4, the open source music and video player, is released

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Post by rpedroso »

sigzero wrote: post #12
SwellJoe wrote: post #7

I wish media player developers would stop trying to imitate iTunes. I hate iTunes. It's confusing (it's caused me to delete my entire music collection on my PC on multiple occasions), it's huge and demanding (of my focus/attention, and also computing resources) where it shouldn't be, and its integration with iTunes store is pointless and annoying to me (I don't shop at iTunes). It's great that seemingly high quality…

"It's confusing (it's caused me to delete my entire music collection on my PC on multiple occasions)" What? Ummmm....even my super non-techie wife hasn't done that.

Back in the early days of iTunes, I bought an iPod Mini and synced it on a Windows machine. Occasionally, I would sync my iPod, and something like 20 songs would disappear (purchased and non-purchased). This happened without warning, with alarming frequency.

This was a known bug as late as iTunes 7, which would sometimes disregard the "Automatic Media Folder Management" setting, do it anyways, and sometimes files/folders.

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