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Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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Post by xorcist »

thsowers wrote: post #337
krrrh wrote: post #287

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They could easily add an optional badge to avatars showing that you donated $1 that year via an optional in-app purchase. The subtle social pressure in a lot of group chats would be pretty effective, and it would help raise awareness that it is run by a non-profit foundation.

This sounds good on first pass, but consider the implication of allowing donations (and thus, payment method information) to be tied to a Signal users account. I specifically _wouldn't_ want this.

They already have your phone number, closely tied to your real identity. What could they possibly do with some payment information?

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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Post by caturopath »

jelliclesfarm wrote: post #471
caturopath wrote: post #304

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I don't understand practically any of this very well. > There could be conflict of interest if it’s a gift considering Acton was involved with WhatsApp before Signal was formed. Why is this conflict of interest less significant by structuring as a loan? > And a donation would bring him deductions which he probably doesn’t want.. Why wouldn't he want them? Is he time-shifting them or forgoing them? > And there is a gi…

Let me try. I am not a legal person. I think there is a limit to the amount of gift in cash or other assets you can make without triggering a federal gift tax of around 40%. For an individual there is a limit of life time gift tax exemption around 11.5 million and 23 million if the gift is made as a couple. 1. A loan is a business transaction here. There is an expectation that it will be repaid. It can also be forgiv…

> I think there is a limit to the amount of gift in cash or other assets you can make without triggering a federal gift tax of around 40%.

AFAIK, this does not apply when giving to a charity.

> I can’t speak for Acton. Or in any legal capacity, but if it were me, tax deductions to a non profit can be rife with complications because if he ever gets involved with signal as a board member or employee, it might rise questions.

And the loan won't raise similar questions? Why?

> Signal foundation is not a charity.

> A gift invites taxes, iirc. Like..if I gifted you above 15k(and you are not my family or part of a trust/insurance beneficiary etc), you will have to pay taxes on the realized value of the gift.

> Also I don’t know exactly what kind of non profit Signal is...

It's a 501(c)(3) https://signalfoundation.org/

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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Post by jjeaff »

samstave wrote: post #278
mackrevinack wrote: post #242

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a lot of people are pissed about the podcast moving to spotify as well

Why? Youtube is trash now... For example, I have never once received a "you should watch this as well" decent recommendation from Youtube, the sidebar is absolute garbage and cant even keep the concept of a topic-thread... Youtube is total trash.

Are you logged in? Because I don't think they tailor their recommendations much to non-logged in users. I get lots of recommendations that end up being good videos.

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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Post by Niten »

Is there any data on how many of these new users are WhatsApp refugees vs. Parler refugeees vs. some other category?

In principle it shouldn't matter. But I'm worried userbase demographics will determine from which quarter the next legislative threat to end-to-end encryption emerges.

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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Post by IG_Semmelweiss »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #52
faitswulff wrote: post #41

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But it’s par for the course for newly popular services. Some don’t survive the popularity and some thrive in spite of the degraded service. Signal will figure it out. All the best to the engineering team at Signal right now!

>But it’s par for the course for newly popular services. It is, but most consumers don't care, they just what their stuff to work 100% of the time as frictionless as possible, and, on top of all things, for free. Otherwise they just run back to the usual free surveilanceware. I've tried and failed to convince some young, highly educated zoomer friends with good incomes to move away from WhatsApp and Facebook and even…

Loved ones. Especially seniors. Are the easiest to convince

You carrot them with a unique way to ping you, over tech no one else has, and they see it like an intimate connection with you

I had my elder parents and SO use it for years before friends i consider privacy aware and tech savvy... For years

Added benefit: its a lot harder to share memes over a young network with no traffic.

I guess that may change now....

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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Post by xenocratus »

DyslexicAtheist wrote: post #262
dt3ft wrote: post #126

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Signal is being used by at least 10 well-paid medical professionals (group chat) that I know of, and one of them proclaimed today that Signal is owned by Elon Musk (probably because he tweeted about it). I did not care to educate them. And this is in a first world country with a rather wealthy population. Why am I saying this? Users don't give a damn, they expect free things, and they expect things which work. They h…

> one of them proclaimed today that Signal is owned by Elon Musk (probably because he tweeted about it) here is another one (with an insane amount of likes/retweets for something so wrong): "Signal is owned by Twitter and monitored. While open source it is not as secure as they say. Use telegram." -- https://twitter.com/RebelOutlaw1990/status/13471653380777000...

First comment that I saw:

> Telegram uses custom cryptography.

> Signal uses encryption protocols sponsored by Broadcasting Board of Governors, a sister federal agency to the State Department. In plain words, data easily accessible by CIA, NASA and FBI.

I wonder what NASA will do with my Signal messages, maybe use them for a giggle in between transmissions from Mars.

Also, recent blog post about Telegram and its crypto: https://buttondown.email/cryptography-dispatches/archive/cry...

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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Post by blankton »

xeromal wrote: post #74
bzb6 wrote: post #45

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What a workaround. SMS are not encrypted, cost money, have a length limit, don’t support images or groups...

I didn't know some places still charge for SMS

Germany still pays for SMS, nobody here uses MMS because its so expensive.

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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Post by cameronperot »

alan5 wrote: post #71

I just donated to Signal after seeing the error banner in the app. I realised I was more than happy to pay WhatsApp's yearly charge back in the pre-Facebook days (think it was 70p or so?). Figured I could give Signal a few quid every now and then, maybe keep a server up for a few seconds :) Donation link should anyone be interested: https://signal.org/donate/

Just donated as well :)
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