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Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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Post by medstrom »

zajio1am wrote: post #355
CodeGlitch wrote: post #273

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I really wish the EU would put up funds for open source software, like signal, it seems to be something they could get behind for the greater good. My previous job involved creating a graphical programming language for the generation of GPU shaders, which the EU partly funded. I knew it was going nowhere, and it made me slightly sad tax payer money was being used on something I knew, despite my best efforts, would no…

I wisth they do not put up funds to signal. It is closed ecosystem. Even traditional phone calls are more open (having federated independent operators and interoperable implementations).

This is the old Signal-Matrix debate. https://matrix.org/blog/2020/01/02/on-privacy-versus-freedom

In short, federation makes a lot of things more difficult, and Signal opted not to do that to get a polished product quickly. Still, it's not either-or. As I remember it, Moxie welcomes the Matrix developers to try their approach and would be glad if they can get it right, he was just worried that it'd basically never lift off.

I think it's not bad to donate to either project, it's a good thing that we have both.

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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Post by throwaway098237 »

arendtio wrote: post #352
agilob wrote: post #302

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>I really wish the EU would put up funds for open source software, like signal, it seems to be something they could get behind for the greater good. They do https://hexus.net/tech/news/software/125747-14-open-source-p...

I just wonder about the process and the results. I mean, it doesn't look to me, as if there is a management behind this, that actually has a goal. It looks more like they are giving funds to projects who apply for them. IMO, they should state 3 clear goals and sponsor specific projects which reach those goals. To give some example how those could look like: - create a decentralized, federated instant messaging platfo…

I work in EU research funding programs. The process is very bureaucratic, making it difficult for any small company to apply. Not to mention projects without a company.

It's also quite ineffective at giving money to the projects that are meaningful.

Large companies and large university projects rake in plenty.

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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Post by dt3ft »

Krasnol wrote: post #447
dt3ft wrote: post #126

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Signal is being used by at least 10 well-paid medical professionals (group chat) that I know of, and one of them proclaimed today that Signal is owned by Elon Musk (probably because he tweeted about it). I did not care to educate them. And this is in a first world country with a rather wealthy population. Why am I saying this? Users don't give a damn, they expect free things, and they expect things which work. They h…

I'm always surprised anew how unworldly people here can be. Are you even aware that most people are not your "well-paid" medical professionals? Where is this offensive ignorance coming from? How do you even dare to say something like that? We're talking about a non-profit who brings a good and secure messenger even to 3rd world countries. How about you shut your mouth about everybody on the planet and use it to convi…

You’re wrong on so many levels (I was born and raised in a 3rd world country and survived 4 years of war under siege). I am not a Schweizer Goldjunge, and even if I was, suggesting that developers should value their work more definitely does not warrant your tone.

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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Post by feanaro »

godelski wrote: post #453
Avi0n wrote: post #443

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Element clients are very close to finishing their SSO implementations which will help immensely with the on boarding process. Here’s the iOS pull request for example: https://github.com/vector-im/element-ios/pull/3890

One thing that would really help is basically making the server installs a few clicks. Granted it has been about 6 months since I tried but I remember the instructions not being great and I know that'd be zero hope for less technical people.

You don't have to host your own server to use it though. It's also not something recommended for an average user.

However, if you want a server, installing it using Synapse's docker image is very easy. You literally have to run two commands.

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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Post by eredengrin »

Niten wrote: post #476
Groxx wrote: post #435

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https://app.element.io/ -> click "create account" -> create account. The default is for a matrix.org account which is totally fine for anyone who can't/won't dig deeper.

Does that create an account with end-to-end encryption? If not, it's not a replacement for Signal at all.

yes

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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Post by caturopath »

IG_Semmelweiss wrote: post #456
caturopath wrote: post #304

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I don't understand practically any of this very well. > There could be conflict of interest if it’s a gift considering Acton was involved with WhatsApp before Signal was formed. Why is this conflict of interest less significant by structuring as a loan? > And a donation would bring him deductions which he probably doesn’t want.. Why wouldn't he want them? Is he time-shifting them or forgoing them? > And there is a gi…

Ianal. Generally speaking, noncompete agreements prevent you from taking equity / ownership or active role in competitors They say nothing about loans. Thats from the many agreements i have come across between businesses and partners/employees

You're hypothesizing he was contractually obligated not to GIVE them money, but not also to LOAN them money?

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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Post by mawise »

somehnguy wrote: post #479
alan5 wrote: post #71

I just donated to Signal after seeing the error banner in the app. I realised I was more than happy to pay WhatsApp's yearly charge back in the pre-Facebook days (think it was 70p or so?). Figured I could give Signal a few quid every now and then, maybe keep a server up for a few seconds :) Donation link should anyone be interested: https://signal.org/donate/

Not as impactful as a realtime donation but I recently changed my Amazon Smile charity to the Signal Foundation after a few years with my previous selection. I was surprised to learn they were an available option. I also installed a browser extension to automatically bring me to smile.amazon when buying anything on Amazon - so far it has had no weird glitchiness when not buying something and works exactly as advertis…

I was jumping through similar hoops for a while to get Amazon smile donations, but then I looked at their numbers for how much gets donated and it was a pretty trivial amount. I don't remember what I found (anyone have any stats on Amazon smile donation percentages?) but I decided it wasn't worth my effort compared to adding an extra few dollars to my direct donations.
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