I use huawei p20 lite 2019 and the signal app is not as smooth and fluid as whatsapp. The animations frames are noticeable. I really want to love the app. I hope they improve the android experience for lower end smart phones
Signal is having technical difficulties
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Re: Signal is having technical difficulties
#422Guess who is not having technical difficulties, ever: Telegram They are going to be the next Facebook. I don't understand why people underestimate them so much. When they rolled their own crypto in some areas, people made fun of them, yet no one could break it. When they published their source code openly, people say they aren't open source like signal. When FB bought WhatsApp, people seriously continued to choose it…
Well first off Telegram doesn't actually do end to end encryption unless you manually opt in. They don't allow end to end encrypted voice or video calls. They don't allow end to end encrypted group chats. Telegram is also a for-profit company that has no guarantees that they'll continue to not harvest your data because they're a pre-profit startup company.
Let's clear a few things up.
1. e2e chats are not default, and they are clear on this fact. It is very easy to start one, though.
2. All voice and video calls are e2e encrypted. [1]
3. They do not harvest your data, and they are not for-profit. All of the money invested so far has been put up by the founder, Pavel Durov, [2], but they have outlined possible methods for financing. [3]
[1] https://core.telegram.org/api/end-to-end/video-calls
Re: Signal is having technical difficulties
#423Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don’t understand how that will help you figure out the equivalent of a post mortem for a service outage.
You said you asked them about their "tech stack and ability to scale". A tech stack consists of frameworks and languages used, which can be found on GitHub, so there's part of your answer. Indeed I'd be interested in the post mortem here and I also don't expect anything from them (depending on how large this turns out to be, though, and so far it's actually a rather huge outage so maybe we'll get some info after all)…
Ah, I meant their infrastructure as well.
Re: Signal is having technical difficulties
#424Earlier quoted context omitted.
Signal is being used by at least 10 well-paid medical professionals (group chat) that I know of, and one of them proclaimed today that Signal is owned by Elon Musk (probably because he tweeted about it). I did not care to educate them. And this is in a first world country with a rather wealthy population. Why am I saying this? Users don't give a damn, they expect free things, and they expect things which work. They h…
> one of them proclaimed today that Signal is owned by Elon Musk (probably because he tweeted about it) here is another one (with an insane amount of likes/retweets for something so wrong): "Signal is owned by Twitter and monitored. While open source it is not as secure as they say. Use telegram." -- https://twitter.com/RebelOutlaw1990/status/13471653380777000...
It's Russian owned actually, moved HQ to Germany.
Re: Signal is having technical difficulties
#425I just donated to Signal after seeing the error banner in the app. I realised I was more than happy to pay WhatsApp's yearly charge back in the pre-Facebook days (think it was 70p or so?). Figured I could give Signal a few quid every now and then, maybe keep a server up for a few seconds :) Donation link should anyone be interested: https://signal.org/donate/
Thanks I just gave 50 bucks, well worth it, that makes me happy!
Did so myself. Gotta support such organisations.
Re: Signal is having technical difficulties
#426Earlier quoted context omitted.
Read the post. I've had this discussion dozens of times now, everyone repeats the same arguments, all based on what Keybase puts out, never checking anything for themselves or even logically reasoning about how this could work (for those who bring up blockchain instead of third party proofs). There's a reason I link the information you're looking for, you don't even have to check it for yourself anymore. > It was men…
I'm curious, are there any apps out there that you don't have to host yourself that you do consider to be end-to-end encrypted?
What kind of a question is that? Of course there are, and self-hosting does not replace key verification.
- Wire
- Signal
- Jami
- Matrix/Element with central servers
- Threema
- Briar
- WhatsApp if you turn on key change notifications
- even Telegram secret 1:1 chats on a client that supports these kinds of chats
- anything you add OTR or PGP to... and the list goes on
You just need to do key verification, since key distribution is an unsolved problem in cryptography.
Re: Signal is having technical difficulties
#427My friends have been switching to signal this last week and I'm really happy I made the switch so far.
I just wish it was as easy to switch from Amazon and Google.
Re: Signal is having technical difficulties
#428Earlier quoted context omitted.
Telegram has optional E2E encryption (as does WhatsApp) which puts it ahead of Facebook Messenger. Unlike FB Messenger and WhatsApp, the company behind Telegram so far doesn't have a history of selling your personal data. I'd say it's fairly competitive, though obviously not ahead of Signal
> Telegram has optional E2E encryption (as does WhatsApp) WhatsApp, for all its faults is E2E-encrypted by default and all the time. Not that it helps much unless you avoid activating backups and convince all your contacts to avoid backups. I don't like WhatsApp (anymore), but we should stick to the facts.
Thanks for setting the record straight. I actually thought you needed to opt in (was that maybe how it worked when they first added it?) but I'm glad to hear it's always on
Re: Signal is having technical difficulties
#429Earlier quoted context omitted.
Desktop app is still behind the mobile in a few things but they are getting closer these days
Yeah I was very positively surprised to find that the desktop app has a large number of useful keyboard shortcuts: https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360036517511-Si...
Thanks! They're listed in the menu of the desktop app as well: Help | Show Keyboard Shortcuts
Re: Signal is having technical difficulties
#430Earlier quoted context omitted.
The platform offers a recurring monthly donation. Divide by 12?
I don't really want to see a bill for e.g. £0.41 every month on my credit card statement, and at some point the transaction fees would become a bother for Signal. I'd have ticked "recurring annually" if the option had existed.
Set up a recurring calendar reminder. Maybe boxing day or new years day and give yourself a fresh start to the year with some donations.