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Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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Post by bdamm »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #237
dave_sid wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very good point. People will happily pay 50 pounds a month for an IPhone and thinking nothing of it. But then really struggle to pay a penny for an app that runs in that iPhone. There’s some funny psychology going on.

Paying for software vs phones is not really an apples to apples comparison. A better comparison would be how people gladly pay ten bucks a month for spotify/netflix but would probably never pay that for messaging and IMHO that's where the industry should be going. People in the past also thought music and movies should be free and pirated the shit out of them, but by making it simple and accessible, for ten bucks a m…

Paying for avatars and stickers.

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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Post by lillecarl »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #237
dave_sid wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very good point. People will happily pay 50 pounds a month for an IPhone and thinking nothing of it. But then really struggle to pay a penny for an app that runs in that iPhone. There’s some funny psychology going on.

Paying for software vs phones is not really an apples to apples comparison. A better comparison would be how people gladly pay ten bucks a month for spotify/netflix but would probably never pay that for messaging and IMHO that's where the industry should be going. People in the past also thought music and movies should be free and pirated the shit out of them, but by making it simple and accessible, for ten bucks a m…

What i don't like is that "everything" is 10$ a month. I would like to subscribe to some payment aggregator where they charge me X dollars a month in one transaction, then pays it out to developers/service providers. This way things could go down in price too, since the fees would be lower because of less transactions. This way cheaper services like messaging could be 1$ a month without being eaten up by fees.

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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Post by entropea »

ceejayoz wrote: post #53
entropea wrote: post #46

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I"m not saying this is what happened this time, but I would suspect we'll see a lot more outages of encrypted centralized chat like this as nation states try to prevent general society from moving away from the social media websites almost solely designed for mass surveillance.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/technology/telegram-signa... > The result was a mass migration that, if it lasts, could weaken the power of Facebook and other big tech companies. On Tuesday, Telegram said it added more than 25 million users over the previous three days, pushing it to over 500 million users. Signal added nearly 1.3 million users on Monday alone, after averaging just 50,000 downloads a day last year…

Agreed, there is a simple & likely explanation for this outage, being a huge increase in user base worldwide.

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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Post by tailspin2019 »

alan5 wrote: post #71

I just donated to Signal after seeing the error banner in the app. I realised I was more than happy to pay WhatsApp's yearly charge back in the pre-Facebook days (think it was 70p or so?). Figured I could give Signal a few quid every now and then, maybe keep a server up for a few seconds :) Donation link should anyone be interested: https://signal.org/donate/

Thanks for posting the link.

Donated.

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Post by arnoooooo »

chopin24 wrote: post #265

For all of you saying we should switch to Matrix, please outline the user sign up flow in your comment. Be detailed. Your audience is your 50 something aunt who calls her iPad her Facebook.

If you don't intend to use a specific server, it's the same as creating an account on any online service.

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Post by atoav »

alan5 wrote: post #71

I just donated to Signal after seeing the error banner in the app. I realised I was more than happy to pay WhatsApp's yearly charge back in the pre-Facebook days (think it was 70p or so?). Figured I could give Signal a few quid every now and then, maybe keep a server up for a few seconds :) Donation link should anyone be interested: https://signal.org/donate/

I set up an monthly donation just now, thanks for the reminder.

Remember: regular donations are better because they help with long term planning.

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Post by filoleg »

joshxyz wrote: post #286
breiti wrote: post #272

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Just a few tweet below in that thread: > Telegram is owned by Google if not mistaken!? sigh.

To be fair i grew up thinking bill gates owned skype

Your belief about Skype being owned by Bill Gates is kinda factually true. Not necessarily Bill Gates himself, but Microsoft acquired Skype back in 2011.

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Post by ptero »

hnrodey wrote: post #209
KMag wrote: post #111

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Is SMS still popular in your part of the world? I literally haven't gotten an SMS from a human in the past 9 years. Here in Hong Kong, SMS is how your bank sends notifications, and for spam. The chat space is vastly dominated by Weixin/WeChat and WhatsApp.

United States. I'm 37. 99.9% of messaging (for me) occurs via iMessages or SMS. FB Messenger is occasionally used for people who are more acquaintances (don't have their phone number). I don't really have a good reason to not use iMessages (blue bubbles). Reasonably secure and Just Works. SMS on the other hand.... my least favorite part of SMS (besides the complete lack of security) is that media messages are cripple…

United States too. Same feeling that most messages are iMessage or SMS. But as one of two extended family members with Android against ~10 with iPhones, for me iMessages are pretty horrible. They mostly work most of the time, but frequently there are glitches on glitches. SMS between Android phones are rock solid. Just a single data point.

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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Post by Arathorn »

chopin24 wrote: post #265

For all of you saying we should switch to Matrix, please outline the user sign up flow in your comment. Be detailed. Your audience is your 50 something aunt who calls her iPad her Facebook.

we’ve been working a lot on onboarding on Element, just as Signal have. it’s not perfect, but empirically it’s good enough for many non-technical users. comments like this are likely based on stale data (eg from when we forced e2ee setup during registration).

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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Post by bilal4hmed »

roughly wrote: post #279
zamadatix wrote: post #223

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Not really worried about funding its existence for the sake of it just not freeloading my use while it's here and I decide it's worth it which is what the gp was referring to as well.

I'd still argue to give the amount the service is worth to you, but if you're not willing to do that, then I'd say bilal4hmed is probably right - $1/mo is probably sufficient. Facebook, Twitter, etc. all have ARPUs at or below $12/yr.

also check if your employer does a matching donation. Its an easy way to double your donation. I do a single yearly donation for that reason
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