Why cancer cells waste so much energy

Post by XnoiVeX » Fri, Jan 15, 2021, 6:03 PM UTC

majkinetor wrote: post #74

calebkaiser wrote: post #73

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Good point--I amended my original comment to specify folic acid. What you're saying about stable DNA makes sense. I'm curious, though, if the supplementation helps the body generate more NAD+ (relative to someone with a deficiency), and if that could help cancer proliferate in its earliest stages (hence why the correlation is most pronounced in people already likely to develop cancer--smokers).

That is the whole problem - everything that benefits your body, benefits cancer and vice-versa. Cancer forms all the time - body should handle it when functioning correctly (via immune system). NAD is essential for many functions, especially longevity as sirtuins require it for proper function. As far as I know only massive Vitamin C doses uniquely influence cancer in negative manner and get pretty much no effect on…

Post by paxswill » Fri, Jan 15, 2021, 6:11 PM UTC

jacobn wrote: post #110

Does the difference in metabolic pathway lead to e.g. different waste products present in the blood? I.e. could you do a blood test to detect elevated levels of fermentation-based metabolism, indicating that it might be time to do a deeper cancer screen?

Post by majkinetor » Fri, Jan 15, 2021, 6:38 PM UTC

XnoiVeX wrote: post #111

majkinetor wrote: post #74

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That is the whole problem - everything that benefits your body, benefits cancer and vice-versa. Cancer forms all the time - body should handle it when functioning correctly (via immune system). NAD is essential for many functions, especially longevity as sirtuins require it for proper function. As far as I know only massive Vitamin C doses uniquely influence cancer in negative manner and get pretty much no effect on…

I know a few friends who take NAD booster supplements. Does it increase their chance of developing cancer? Just curious as there seems to be a connection based on what I read recently.

Post by wonder_er » Fri, Jan 15, 2021, 6:46 PM UTC

oedmarap wrote: post #107

Worth noting that unlike the cells of the human body, cancer cells are unable to utilize ketones as an energy source[0][1], hence the benefits of a ketogenic diet. A ketogenic diet can also be ideally coupled with intermittent fasting[2] in order to engage/enhance autophagy within the body. [0] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5842847/ [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6375425/ [2] https://…

Post by aficiomaquinas » Fri, Jan 15, 2021, 6:53 PM UTC

wittyreference wrote: post #105

IfOnlyYouKnew wrote: post #99

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If something is flagged by YouTube, it must be a really bad idea. Chlorine isn’t too bad in terms of toxicity, or it wouldn’t be added to drinking water and freely sold for all sorts of purposes. But there’s absolutely no reason to ingest it (or any other route of administration). I guess it’s exactly because of it’s ubiquity that those of a conspiratorial mindset like it so much: it fits with the idea that there are…

Chlorine sucks. It's added to water because the other major way of disinfecting water (ozone) is too transient to last all the way through the water pipelines. Nonetheless, they're often used in combination, to minimize the amount of chlorine needed. The only thing worse than chlorinated water is the diseases you catch by not having chlorinated water.