Demand a refund!
Signal is having technical difficulties
51–60 of 750 posts
Re: Signal is having technical difficulties
#52This is not good. I've moved so many people over in the last week. For purposes of getting them invested, this is a truly inopportune moment for an extended outage.
But it’s par for the course for newly popular services. Some don’t survive the popularity and some thrive in spite of the degraded service. Signal will figure it out. All the best to the engineering team at Signal right now!
>But it’s par for the course for newly popular services.
It is, but most consumers don't care, they just what their stuff to work 100% of the time as frictionless as possible, and, on top of all things, for free. Otherwise they just run back to the usual free surveilanceware.
I've tried and failed to convince some young, highly educated zoomer friends with good incomes to move away from WhatsApp and Facebook and even when I told them "Look, they're basically spying on you" they just brush it off and say "I don't care, it's fun, easy to use and all my friends are already there".
Ironically, it was easier to convince my boomer parents to move to Signal and they also understand and agree with the tradeoffs and extra friction for the sake of free privacy but younger people just want to be where their friends are and not feel left out (remember the blue vs green bubble stigma on iMessage).
Re: Signal is having technical difficulties
#53This is not good. I've moved so many people over in the last week. For purposes of getting them invested, this is a truly inopportune moment for an extended outage.
I"m not saying this is what happened this time, but I would suspect we'll see a lot more outages of encrypted centralized chat like this as nation states try to prevent general society from moving away from the social media websites almost solely designed for mass surveillance.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/technology/telegram-signa...
> The result was a mass migration that, if it lasts, could weaken the power of Facebook and other big tech companies. On Tuesday, Telegram said it added more than 25 million users over the previous three days, pushing it to over 500 million users. Signal added nearly 1.3 million users on Monday alone, after averaging just 50,000 downloads a day last year, according to estimates from Apptopia, an app-data firm.
> “We’ve had surges of downloads before,” said Pavel Durov, Telegram’s chief executive, in a message on the app on Tuesday. “But this time is different.”
As someone who semi-fondly remembers the Twitter failwhale, I really don't think a more conspiratorial theory than "a few million people suddenly tried to jump on" is required here.
Re: Signal is having technical difficulties
#54I remember years ago back when I still used WhatsApp when there would also be temporary outages due to huge increase in traffic/popularity. Growing pains. I would have hoped, though, that the engineers at Signal would have foreseen this and would have been prepared.
Re: Signal is having technical difficulties
#55Quite feasible no competition is allowed and they resorted to DDoS the new neighbor. Support government backdoors or get hammered.
Re: Signal is having technical difficulties
#56Is it possible to switch to backup Signal server within app? i'm researching running my own in emergencies.
Signal is totally centralized. The server is (if I recall correctly) open source, but if you were to run your own server, all of your contacts would have to be using your server too in order to communicate with them.
I assume that the hostname(s) of the central Signal servers are hardcoded in the app somewhere, since they're not meant to be replaced.
Re: Signal is having technical difficulties
#57After getting burned by Keybase, I didn't even look at Signal. I am curious to see how Signal works in the long term without a revenue model.
I paid for Matrix and got my team on it, working great.
The nice thing about paying for something is you know what it costs.
Re: Signal is having technical difficulties
#58The centralized-infrastructure-Tower-of-Babel is about to collapse. As much as I love Signal, we've got to move to things that are decentralized. I setup a prosody[1] server a while back, but have nobody to talk with. If anyone wants to try their system out, I'm bjt@2n3904.net on XMPP. 1 - https://prosody.im/
Of course there are protocols like XMPP and Matrix.
But there are also solutions that don’t require everyone to host their own server. Rather, people just host impersonal nodes on the network and everyone uses the whole network together.
Examples would be Status[1] (Ethereum) and Session[2] (Oxen neé Loki).
I’m sure there are others that use this architecture too. I just like it because I don’t have to be personally concerned with who is running my “home server”. Because there is no one single home server in this model.
[1]: https://status.im/
Re: Signal is having technical difficulties
#59good for them to be open about it because it’s easy for internet weirdness to be suspicious these days, my buddy just about shat a brick when a message with the newly leaked video from Fulton GA suddenly vanished: https://www.bitchute.com/video/lep8A5YTQ0P3/
I'm curious how a link to a Fulton County board of elections surveillance video has anything to do with Signal's availability issues.
Re: Signal is having technical difficulties
#60Is it possible to switch to backup Signal server within app? i'm researching running my own in emergencies.
This is a perfect time to learn about using matrix... which is how I told my friends that I usually talk to on signal that signal was broken.
It's actually decentralized so like email only one server goes out at a time.