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Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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As an alternative, I recently setup Nextcloud on an Ubuntu running vm using the snap package[1] and it took around 30 minutes in total. 1: https://github.com/nextcloud/nextcloud-snap

I did the same some months ago - just a heads up that it's not without it's rough edges, but definitely does a near-enough-to-what-i-want job. I've noticed a few unsynced images and am currently struggling to get the android app to stop trying to sync a gigantic folder.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ads on Amazon Prime are infuriating. And I can't help think how annoying it must be for people with disabilities. My other bugbear are the auto playing videos on Netflix and the use of massive spoilers in episode thumbnails. As a single consumer in a vast ocean I don't think my opinions will ever be listened to. Right now it's worth putting up with this crap as the benefits outweigh the cost but if it gets any worse…

This is a great example of why I still prefer torrenting films and TV shows as opposed to using my wife’s Netflix sub: the pirated media is better! Netflix and Hulu and competing with easier to use and more flexible pirated media, whether they like it or not. The consistency and flexibility of the VLC interface (or whatever media player you choose) is vastly better than whatever features a Netflix PM is trying to pus…

Yeah, piracy is almost always the better service. How the hell can a bunch of enthusiasts come up with a better service than multi-billion dollar companies? They seriously need to stop and rethink their industry. When I use my Netflix I get a horribly compressed "high definition" picture, annoying autoplaying ads for shows I don't care about and a constantly decreasing amount of content. Piracy offers the opposite of all that: high quality encodes, no bullshit ads anywhere and complete collections of everything.

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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I left dropbox when they changed the full page upsell to "dropbox business" so that I couldn't easily figure out how to skip it and get on with my work. I had a paid pro account at the time. I actually had a conversation with a product manager; I checked the yes you can contact me when I cancelled my account. They simply refused to admit that an upsell was a advertisement and that disrupting my workflow on my paid, p…

Same with the ads for Amazon videos on Amazon Prime. They are ads and I don't want ads. But they don't see it that way (don't get me started on the forced watching of texts on Blue Rays).

but they're promoting other Amazon shows and they can't be skipped! what possible other framing could there be.

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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I was told a story about the Dropbox sales team a while back that swore me off using them. They contacted the company I worked at, that didn't have a business contract with Dropbox, offering a great deal and a meeting was quickly arranged. The meeting (which I only heard about secondhand from a good friend) quickly turned into a strong-arm operation. Dropbox had 'detected' that employees at our company were using Dro…

The best answer to this tactic is, “Nice Dropbox you have there. Shame if OneDrive were to happen to it.”

The O365 integration with OneDrive is so seamless relative to other options, employees won’t even complain after an initial learning curve. In fact, many will start subscribing to O365 on iOS etc. and start having access to the same content synced across Windows, MacOS, iOS, Xbox, etc.

At this point, with employees adapted and the “M365” data visibility and DLP tools switched on, the enterprise can switch off Dropbox or other file depots so even personal accounts won’t work.

It takes a year or so to play out, but that’s how you lose 20,000 customers at a time.

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* sigh * I would pay a lot of money for a service like the one Dropbox was in in its first few years. That is the service that I need now, not all this shiny crud. I've been a Dropbox user for 12+ years. I imagine it as buying a car 10 years ago because it solved all your mobility needs (shopping, occasional longer trips, dropping kids/family members to their events etc). You wander into the garage 12 years later and…

The car analogy is a good one. Try finding a decent new car that doesn't come with a cell connection and respects your privacy.

I'm more concerned by how they tie the car to short-lived services and technologies. A car shouldn't be obsoleted by the software that powers its dashboard.

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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I left dropbox when they changed the full page upsell to "dropbox business" so that I couldn't easily figure out how to skip it and get on with my work. I had a paid pro account at the time. I actually had a conversation with a product manager; I checked the yes you can contact me when I cancelled my account. They simply refused to admit that an upsell was a advertisement and that disrupting my workflow on my paid, p…

Same with the ads for Amazon videos on Amazon Prime. They are ads and I don't want ads. But they don't see it that way (don't get me started on the forced watching of texts on Blue Rays).

Pay for your content but then torrent the actual viewing experience. Problem solved - on all platforms.

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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I left dropbox when they changed the full page upsell to "dropbox business" so that I couldn't easily figure out how to skip it and get on with my work. I had a paid pro account at the time. I actually had a conversation with a product manager; I checked the yes you can contact me when I cancelled my account. They simply refused to admit that an upsell was a advertisement and that disrupting my workflow on my paid, p…

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Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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I left dropbox when they changed the full page upsell to "dropbox business" so that I couldn't easily figure out how to skip it and get on with my work. I had a paid pro account at the time. I actually had a conversation with a product manager; I checked the yes you can contact me when I cancelled my account. They simply refused to admit that an upsell was a advertisement and that disrupting my workflow on my paid, p…

I dropped them when they restricted free accounts to three devices and I suddenly got inundated with calls from annoyed family and friends to whom I'd spent five years evangelizing.

Yep. I've been gradually replacing them because of that.

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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I left dropbox when they changed the full page upsell to "dropbox business" so that I couldn't easily figure out how to skip it and get on with my work. I had a paid pro account at the time. I actually had a conversation with a product manager; I checked the yes you can contact me when I cancelled my account. They simply refused to admit that an upsell was a advertisement and that disrupting my workflow on my paid, p…

I still have a free Dropbox account but I'm not buying.

I had 16GB permanent at some point (and up to 50GB temporarily for various promotions) but at some point they cut my account to 10 for no good reason at acted dumb when I asked them about it.

Microsoft gave me 5GB extra for uploading photos and shortly afterwards reduced it, forcing me to delete them, luckily I had them backed up elsewhere.

Google Photos have started trying to monetize what they promised for free to (kind of expected, but with Google they could also have decided to shutter it).

On one hand: we cannot expect companies to give things away for free.

On the other hand: when they've given things away for free unforced it doesn't make them look good when they take away what they gave away.

I now go with hetzner.com or something similar. It is paid and while that doesn't guarantee that they won't do something stupid at least they haven't a massive history of doing stupid things unforced.

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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Am I the only one infinitely annoyed by dropbox hiding the download button in a context menu?!

And if you right click on the link to the file, it downloads the html page that shows the file, using the name of the file.

So when you open the file locally, you get a corrupt file message because you downloaded the wrong thing.

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