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Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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You would serve a different trap address to each app, nobody but Dropbox would have the Dropbox trap.

Nobody but Dropbox and anyone with the Dropbox app on their phone . It has to get from the user's phone to Dropbox, which means it's on the user's phone at some point, barring some sort of convoluted user --> Apple --> Dropbox transfer scheme.

Each user has their own trap email for each application. The ban would happen for that user only

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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I left dropbox when they changed the full page upsell to "dropbox business" so that I couldn't easily figure out how to skip it and get on with my work. I had a paid pro account at the time. I actually had a conversation with a product manager; I checked the yes you can contact me when I cancelled my account. They simply refused to admit that an upsell was a advertisement and that disrupting my workflow on my paid, p…

Privately I left Dropbox long ago when they stop supporting bit-by-bit comparison, and moved into chunk-by-chunk check. Found out hard way when detached VeryCrypt secure trunk and attached it day later on another machine. Started scratching my head what the heck. Upon checking, the file was not synced/uploaded and that's how I managed to discover their change.

Business-wise, it was a stuck forced update that made me drop them (pun intended). At some version it did not want to open anymore before update. Fine. The problem was that you could not download update; it was downloader you download and that downloader himself pick file over the internet to download. Problem is the folder and file name was always different causing my simplewall (best firewall I know for Windows 10) to block the file each single time. Before I had chance to fiddle with firewall settings - something I never like doing - I was already registered into lifetime 2TB offer with pCloud, including their "Cyrpto" package for $299 one-time. Never looked back. And also upload speeds I found much faster than DropBox. As of syncing... I think its decent enough. Never had problem. Although their local drive logic is tad different - you are mounting a remote drive which is not equally convenient like DropBox local folder, but at least pCloud does not check folder for changes non-stop.

Disclaimer: have nothing to do with pCloud as a company, just their happy client.

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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Isnt the point here that you don't have control? Seems like you need to allow contact access to use google login at all. There is no fine grained control to permissions.

That's not oauth, that's just the granularity the auth provider has decided to expose in its permissions system, and the granularity Dropbox have opted to request.

That's oauth in the sense that if you login with your own login/pass, this will never be something they can force on you. I never use oauth, always login/pass, and don't have to care about what permissions they ask me, it's easy, they have absolutely zero access to my gmail/facebook/twitter whatever.

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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"instantly skippable" depends on device I think. For a long time, there was no "Skip" button in the Roku app, you could only manually forward through it. It has now been added, but very possible there are apps on other devices still missing that feature

My experience - I have a TCL Roku TV, no skip button on the remote. When the promos play on Amazon Prime a Skip control (link? button?) appears on the lower left of the screen with focus. If I press OK on my remote it activates and goes right to the content.

Yep, exactly same in app on regular Rokus - I was referring to the fact that the on-screen "Skip" is a relatively recent addition (at least on my Roku, Roku Express)

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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Same with the ads for Amazon videos on Amazon Prime. They are ads and I don't want ads. But they don't see it that way (don't get me started on the forced watching of texts on Blue Rays).

Ads on Amazon Prime are infuriating. And I can't help think how annoying it must be for people with disabilities. My other bugbear are the auto playing videos on Netflix and the use of massive spoilers in episode thumbnails. As a single consumer in a vast ocean I don't think my opinions will ever be listened to. Right now it's worth putting up with this crap as the benefits outweigh the cost but if it gets any worse…

> Ads on Amazon Prime are infuriating. And I can't help think how annoying it must be for people with disabilities.

I usually watch TV with subtitles on (it means I can have the volume a little lower), and I find that cases where pre-roll ads are inserted either don't adjust the subtitle sync or don't adjust it properly. Amazon's subtitles are generally 1-2s ahead of the video, which is just enough to let the air out of a big reveal or ruin a joke.

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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As if that wasn't enough, the full complaint shows that after all that scrolling and clicking (I lost count), an email is sent with a big yellow button, and the website starts showing the same button, "Continue your membership", which re-subscribes with a single click .

Anyone who thinks charging a user $99 with a single click and no explanation near the button should be sent to UX jail (where the only way to get food is to come up with a grep command the warden needs to find part of a street address).

A recurring $99 -- I can't think of any other subscription service that doesn't take you through an explicit approval for signing up.

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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Same with the ads for Amazon videos on Amazon Prime. They are ads and I don't want ads. But they don't see it that way (don't get me started on the forced watching of texts on Blue Rays).

Ads on Amazon Prime are infuriating. And I can't help think how annoying it must be for people with disabilities. My other bugbear are the auto playing videos on Netflix and the use of massive spoilers in episode thumbnails. As a single consumer in a vast ocean I don't think my opinions will ever be listened to. Right now it's worth putting up with this crap as the benefits outweigh the cost but if it gets any worse…

This is a great example of why I still prefer torrenting films and TV shows as opposed to using my wife’s Netflix sub: the pirated media is better!

Netflix and Hulu and competing with easier to use and more flexible pirated media, whether they like it or not. The consistency and flexibility of the VLC interface (or whatever media player you choose) is vastly better than whatever features a Netflix PM is trying to push to juice their metrics.

(I won’t even get into unskippable screens on Blu-Ray discs which are removed on the pirate version.)

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