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Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

#122

I left dropbox when they changed the full page upsell to "dropbox business" so that I couldn't easily figure out how to skip it and get on with my work. I had a paid pro account at the time. I actually had a conversation with a product manager; I checked the yes you can contact me when I cancelled my account. They simply refused to admit that an upsell was a advertisement and that disrupting my workflow on my paid, p…

Same with the ads for Amazon videos on Amazon Prime. They are ads and I don't want ads. But they don't see it that way (don't get me started on the forced watching of texts on Blue Rays).

I just blocked all notifications from the Amazon app. Works great.

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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post #94

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Does android have this API? The problem I see is, if they are introduced in later versions, people are anyway used to apps asking these permissions and developers don't bother to use these. Also, a question to security experts: In many apps say we want a UX where the user would immediately be able to see their recent pics and select from them (think recent photos bar in whatsapp), but app shouldn't be able to access…

Android has a better API, and has had it for at least 5 years. An app can open the system UI for you to choose a file, and it would then only get access to that particular file while the activity (screen) that requested it is running. As far as the user is concerned, this requires no permissions. Under the hood, the app gets a content:// URI with an "URI permission" granted. This is also how sharing (Intent.ACTION_SE…

Yep. Android also has a Contact Picker that doesn't require contacts permissions where you just select a single person in a dialog.

I have never seen it used in a real app. Most apps request permission to your entire address book.

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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Ads on Amazon Prime are infuriating. And I can't help think how annoying it must be for people with disabilities. My other bugbear are the auto playing videos on Netflix and the use of massive spoilers in episode thumbnails. As a single consumer in a vast ocean I don't think my opinions will ever be listened to. Right now it's worth putting up with this crap as the benefits outweigh the cost but if it gets any worse…

> My other bugbear are the auto playing videos on Netflix and the use of massive spoilers in episode thumbnails. You can actually turn off "Autoplay previews" now. You have to log into your account from a web browser, and then look at the Playback settings for the profile you want to change.

Note that this anti anti feature was introduced quietly so not everyone may have noticed it yet.

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

#125
post #79

I've got a Synology NAS and I keep OneDrive for documents I might need in case of emergency. Dropbox has no reason to exists for me. Firstly, they want to force me which filesystem to use on my Linux box, secondly, I already have plenty of GBs on Google Drive and MS OneDrive, so why would I need another service is beyond me. I mean, it's not like Dropbox is a safe encrypted alternative to GDrive or OneDrive anyway...

They do provide provide first-party Linux support, which Google and Microsoft lack. What other reason should I have for trusting Microsoft or Google over Dropbox? (Serious question, I've been considering my cloud sync provider recently).

There are working open source clients for OneDrive. You can just encrypt the data you pump into OneDrive (or any cloud provider you don't trust) and just use it for quick online access and then sync everything into your local NAS/server.

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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post #10

Hmm. My Dropbox Pro subscription renewal is coming up. Is there an alternative to Dropbox that isn't iCloud or Google Drive? I would like to pay for Tarsnap but I don't understand 250 picodollars / byte-month.

https://www.jottacloud.com/en/ has been around for over a decade.

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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post #43

I really wish mobile OSes would allow you to grant apps permissions but serve fake data, (that's important!) without giving the app the ability to tell the difference. Just so it appears to the app that you've given the permission, when you in fact have not. This would solve this entire class of problems and then some. So, for example: - App "has" access to contacts, but the system returns that you have none. - App "…

Although it’ll never happen a cool idea would be to serve trap addresses and phone numbers so the developer can receive an instant ban if spam ends up on these addresses

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

#128

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> FYI - never use oauth to log into anything you care about. Interesting remark. I'm not objecting but it's interesting that this goes against what can one read here very often from people who comment on new products, which goes like this: "if you offered oauth sign up, I'd sign up but won't bother with creating an account". Just an observation.

do you mean OpenID? I guess oauth is OK for signups if the tokens were expiring. But usually you naively give the credentials to a new startup, only to find out they abuse them months later.

Can you elaborate on that? How can they abuse it? Your oauth provider will show you which permissions the app is requesting when you grant them access. What kind of abuse have you seen?

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

#129
post #76

why people would use oauth for services like this? I always use anonymous email

More convenient. No passwords, and better security. Everything is centralized (disadvantage too)

Also,

"why people would use anonymous email for services like this? I always use oauth"

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

#130

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Yes wtf, I'm already paying and trying to watch a series I enjoy, stop pestering me. Just one of many dark patterns at Amazon, cancelling Prime is so difficult that Norwegan Consumer Council and 15 others yesterday started a legal fight with Amazon: https://www.forbrukerradet.no/siste-nytt/amazon-manipulates-... The video there is quite aggravating.

I've cancelled Prime, now they hit me with week long delivery times which after a day are reduced by half or less, just to get me back on Prime.

Seven of Prime, Tertiary Attribute of Bezos
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