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Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

#72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> they just couldn't grok the reason It's hard to make someone understand something when their salary (and entire reputation - given that increasing engagement/retention by X% is a big selling point on a resume) depends on not understanding it.

Yes, but usually in that situation, the misunderstanding is intentional. This seemed a genuine inability to understand why I would quit over "a simple upsell". I am sure the inability to understand that it was a dark pattern to have no [X] or [SKIP] button was intentional :-)

> This seemed a genuine inability to understand why I would quit over "a simple upsell".

Similar situation with major retail chains delivering brochures to a doorstep, or a bank clerk upselling bank credit and investment funds. It's not inability to understand, they are financially rewarded by doing this to you and their supervisors are malicious sociopaths. Their attitude is "why this person doesn't let me do my job".

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

#73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same with the ads for Amazon videos on Amazon Prime. They are ads and I don't want ads. But they don't see it that way (don't get me started on the forced watching of texts on Blue Rays).

Yes wtf, I'm already paying and trying to watch a series I enjoy, stop pestering me. Just one of many dark patterns at Amazon, cancelling Prime is so difficult that Norwegan Consumer Council and 15 others yesterday started a legal fight with Amazon: https://www.forbrukerradet.no/siste-nytt/amazon-manipulates-... The video there is quite aggravating.

I've cancelled Prime, now they hit me with week long delivery times which after a day are reduced by half or less, just to get me back on Prime.

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

#74
post #47

People are still using dropbox in the age of one-click nextclouds in aws, freenas, digitalocean, etc? Interesting.

> nextclouds in aws

Now make the owncloud/nextcloud a reliable experience for more than one user, handle updates and occassional migrations, etc.

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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I really wish mobile OSes would allow you to grant apps permissions but serve fake data, (that's important!) without giving the app the ability to tell the difference. Just so it appears to the app that you've given the permission, when you in fact have not. This would solve this entire class of problems and then some. So, for example: - App "has" access to contacts, but the system returns that you have none. - App "…

App developers find out about this practice as it gets more commonplace. They add a check for 'empty' data or resolution failures. If these checks notice that you had been providing null or fake data, the app now gives you an intrusive yet pleading popup to please lift the privacy measures. You get annoyed, resenting the fact that your friends are using this piece of garbage. Reluctantly you lift the measures, forget…

That would get you banned in the Apple App Store

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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Hmm. My Dropbox Pro subscription renewal is coming up. Is there an alternative to Dropbox that isn't iCloud or Google Drive? I would like to pay for Tarsnap but I don't understand 250 picodollars / byte-month.

"250 picodollars / byte-month" is just a hackish way of saying "$0.25 / gigabyte-month, pro-rated down to the byte."

I always thought it was about avoiding the 1000 vs 1024 discussion https://xkcd.com/394/

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

#78
I've got a Synology NAS and I keep OneDrive for documents I might need in case of emergency.

Dropbox has no reason to exists for me. Firstly, they want to force me which filesystem to use on my Linux box, secondly, I already have plenty of GBs on Google Drive and MS OneDrive, so why would I need another service is beyond me. I mean, it's not like Dropbox is a safe encrypted alternative to GDrive or OneDrive anyway...

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

#79

I've got a Synology NAS and I keep OneDrive for documents I might need in case of emergency. Dropbox has no reason to exists for me. Firstly, they want to force me which filesystem to use on my Linux box, secondly, I already have plenty of GBs on Google Drive and MS OneDrive, so why would I need another service is beyond me. I mean, it's not like Dropbox is a safe encrypted alternative to GDrive or OneDrive anyway...

They do provide provide first-party Linux support, which Google and Microsoft lack.

What other reason should I have for trusting Microsoft or Google over Dropbox? (Serious question, I've been considering my cloud sync provider recently).

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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post #47

People are still using dropbox in the age of one-click nextclouds in aws, freenas, digitalocean, etc? Interesting.

And we've come full circle from Dropbox's initial announcement post [1] to this post, almost 14 years later.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224

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