I follow pretty liberal content and was seeing these too.
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#242Wow buzzfeed on hackernews
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Yes, you can buy AR15s and other semiautomatic rifles in Portugal. Most of Europe allows sports shooting, for example (from the top of my hear what I know for sure): Finland Sweden Norway Estonia Czech Republic Poland Germany France Italy Switzerland Austria Spain And I haven't even put research into the rest of the countries
You can not buy semiautomatic rifles in Portugal, even if you are a collector I think but for that you might need to have some sort of special requirement. These are the types of licences we have: http://armas.mai-gov.info/obtencao-de-licencas/ Now you can buy weapons of the same caliber, for hunting (but you need hunting licensing). Edit: Ok I need to clarify this. Because we have a different name for specific weapo…
http://www.soldiers-almada.com/Armas
Seems to be selling AR15s just fine.
And "military grade ar15" is not a thing.
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I know the argument here has been towards being able to buy or not a specific platform (AR-15), but I would like to address this: > So yes, you can buy some specific models of semiautomatic rifles (for hunting), but you can't buy military grade semiautomatic rifles The semi-automatic rifles that you can buy in Portugal include the Remington 700 and the Thompson Performance Center T/C. Both can come chambered in .308…
>So, why is in your opinion the AR-15 platform "military grade", and the hunting rifles available in Portugal not? Knowing that both platforms have been used by the military in combat situations, and knowing the hunting platforms usually have much more powerful cartridges? This is a question you'd need to ask to the portuguese authority that manages weapons importation at the customs, which curiously, it's a procedur…
Gun clubs are popular in Europe. In France, until very recently (2017), you could buy an MG42 or a Browning M2. If you bought it before that date, you can still have it, but now full auto is no longer allowed. There are no restrictions on platforms or types of weapons, only on caliber.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contr%C3%B4le_des_armes_%C3%A0...
In Switzerland, on the other hand, you can have full auto. Europe is not a gun-free zone like Americans seem to think, from both sides of the aisle.
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You can not buy semiautomatic rifles in Portugal, even if you are a collector I think but for that you might need to have some sort of special requirement. These are the types of licences we have: http://armas.mai-gov.info/obtencao-de-licencas/ Now you can buy weapons of the same caliber, for hunting (but you need hunting licensing). Edit: Ok I need to clarify this. Because we have a different name for specific weapo…
http://www.soldiers-almada.com/Armas Seems to be selling AR15s just fine. And "military grade ar15" is not a thing.
Just because they sell it, doesn't mean everyone can buy them: you have difference licences for different uses. And not all licenses are available to everyone.
Some licenses are strictly for law enforcement for example.
I didn't say military grade ar15 is thing, i said our authorities can consider that a weapon is for military use. It's their call, not mine, or yours.
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>So, why is in your opinion the AR-15 platform "military grade", and the hunting rifles available in Portugal not? Knowing that both platforms have been used by the military in combat situations, and knowing the hunting platforms usually have much more powerful cartridges? This is a question you'd need to ask to the portuguese authority that manages weapons importation at the customs, which curiously, it's a procedur…
Gun clubs are popular in Europe. In France, until very recently (2017), you could buy an MG42 or a Browning M2. If you bought it before that date, you can still have it, but now full auto is no longer allowed. There are no restrictions on platforms or types of weapons, only on caliber. https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contr%C3%B4le_des_armes_%C3%A0... In Switzerland, on the other hand, you can have full auto. Europe is…
But the stance is quite different, owning a gun is not a right but more like a privilege.
And they're not objects for public display.
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Gun clubs are popular in Europe. In France, until very recently (2017), you could buy an MG42 or a Browning M2. If you bought it before that date, you can still have it, but now full auto is no longer allowed. There are no restrictions on platforms or types of weapons, only on caliber. https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contr%C3%B4le_des_armes_%C3%A0... In Switzerland, on the other hand, you can have full auto. Europe is…
But the stance is quite different, owning a gun is not a right but more like a privilege. And they're not objects for public display.
Correct on the right/privilege. It is similar to the concept/laws concerning owning a car and driving. If that is a good thing or not, it is up for a different discussion, which I can't participate since I fully agree with you on this point.
But on the "objects for public display", I sense some hostility towards guns and gun culture in general. Maybe that's your personal perspective being projected onto the whole? My brother in law is from France and he is a huge gun nerd. His weapons were "objects for public display" just like any other weapon in a gun store in America, but I really miss the point here.
Do you feel comfortable around guns? Have you ever experienced a shooting sport? You should definitely try, it is super fun, specially when you have knowledgeable people around. And gun clubs in Europe are super welcoming to new members.
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You can buy body armor in Portugual too: http://www.engardeportugal.com/produtos.htm And apparently it is much needed: https://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/procurado-por-tenta... https://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/homem-ameaca-mulher... https://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/gnr-em-alerta-maxim...
Nah, not needed at all. Such scuffs do happen but are very rare, usually revolve around some sort of treason - wife/friend/land dispute. Plus we don't have terrorist attacks (domestic and foreigners), we don't have religion fanatics that go on killing sprees, we have a good public healthcare system that helps mentally hill (we don't have serial killers, and the ones we had didn't achieve the pop culture status), we h…
I totally understand it is not needed, this was a straw man intended to detract from the idea that body armor is something alien and unnecessary for the general public.
It is a personal protection item like any other. Is it useful in New York City or Lisbon? Probably not. But the same applies to other PPEs and we don't shame people for wanting to buy/use them. If a person feels safer using X, then fine, use it.
As a society we used to mock people that bought Gas Masks and Respirators, marginalizing them as crazy. Then 2020 happened and all of a sudden every single gas mask, including useless old surplus, was out of stock.
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http://www.soldiers-almada.com/Armas Seems to be selling AR15s just fine. And "military grade ar15" is not a thing.
Just because they sell it, doesn't mean everyone can buy them: you have difference licences for different uses. And not all licenses are available to everyone. Some licenses are strictly for law enforcement for example. I didn't say military grade ar15 is thing, i said our authorities can consider that a weapon is for military use. It's their call, not mine, or yours.
That's completely besides the point. One _can_ buy AR15s in Portugal. Yes it takes jumping through hoops, but it's entirely possible.
If you don't mean what you say then don't say it.
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But the stance is quite different, owning a gun is not a right but more like a privilege. And they're not objects for public display.
Correct on the right/privilege. It is similar to the concept/laws concerning owning a car and driving. If that is a good thing or not, it is up for a different discussion, which I can't participate since I fully agree with you on this point. But on the "objects for public display", I sense some hostility towards guns and gun culture in general. Maybe that's your personal perspective being projected onto the whole? My…
Maybe it didn't phrase myself right, I mean you don't see public display of weapons in the sense of seeing people wielding weapons on the street, you don't see weapons in protests, you don't see people with carry on, no one has weapons on display on their houses and it's not a subject of discussion at a table... it's almost like it's rude (unless it's a meal of people that hunt).
I've grown around hunting weapons, mainly shotguns and rifles since my grandfather was an hunter. But all my education revolving weapons is that they are tools - dangerous tools - to hunt. Everyone of my friends I grew up with had family members that hunted, and some of them became hunters themselves. For sport some shoot plates, but a lot of those places closed own over the years due to polution.
The weapons body are made of wood and usually have some sort of carving in the metal accents. Hell, some of them were literally works of art - with duck/foxes/boars/deer/flower motives. I dont' recall seeing anyone who had weapons that were "military" style, neither in shape or even color/pattern.
Now that I think of it, there was some sort of snob attitude around all of that (like usually only people with a lot of money could buy access to big game properties).
At least this is from my life, in my country living on the countryside. Weapons and the subject revolving weapons are limited to specific contexts, so for me it's just odd a lot of what happens in the USA.
As a kid I found weapons fun, had air pressured rifles to hunt birds and shoot at targets, airsoft guns, etc.