TBP has been down all week (everything showing 0 seeds). sup with dat?
Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'
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Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'
#582Earlier quoted context omitted.
So does that mean if I am hosting a dinner at my home on my own private property and someone starts spewing hate at people I have to let him because it's his free speech? No, I'm kicking that asshole off my property and banning him from returning. It's the same for these tech companies. They are private companies and if you break their ToS for inciting violence or posting illegal shit then they have the right to ban…
> So does that mean if I am hosting a dinner at my home on my own private property and someone starts spewing hate at people Well, if that "private property home" is the only place where people in your surroundings can get something to eat; and if that someone "spew at others" but says something vile quietly to his friends, so that only people actively listening in on the conversation hear it, then - maybe you should…
Again, free speech isn't a legal thing that is a right to an individual in all settings. It is baked into the constitution, but that has zero to do with dinner parties and more to how government can act when dealing with people speaking their minds.
Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'
#583I personally don't find their ability to remain online that surprising. The Pirate Bay and other torrent networks were built by people with a passion for building, maintaining and hacking things. People who, even without a solid CS background, would spend hours a day learning new things, developing distributed protocols, evading DNS blocks and hosting their content wherever they could to make it accessible - included…
> And even if they wanted to hire some smart engineers to do the job for them, we all know that engineers tend to swing on the other opposite of the ideological spectrum. Those who have built systems for escaping REAL authoritarian censorship would rightfully feel disgusted if asked to apply their knowledge to provide a safe harbour for rednecks to vomit their conspiracy-theories-fueled hate.
I'm not sure this is true. This seems to imply that nations which have copyright law are imposing authoritarian censorship on their citizens. This doesn't seem to be a pervasive idea, at least in the US.
There are proponents of information freedom who oppose copyright law. It's not clear to me that this group would oppose Parler, and in fact many I've spoken to believe they should be free to exist without censorship.
But - I am not sure they want to be associated with Parler either, out of concern for their reputation.
Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'
#584Earlier quoted context omitted.
So does that mean if I am hosting a dinner at my home on my own private property and someone starts spewing hate at people I have to let him because it's his free speech? No, I'm kicking that asshole off my property and banning him from returning. It's the same for these tech companies. They are private companies and if you break their ToS for inciting violence or posting illegal shit then they have the right to ban…
Your home is not infrastructure. Internet service, banking and online payments are infrastructure just like water, gas and electricity and companies shouldn't have the right to cut you off on ideological grounds or because your spew out so called hate speech. Note I said internet service not a subscription to a social media service. Your internet provider may decline to provide you with email, hell the may even decli…
> gas and electricity and companies shouldn't have the right to cut you off on ideological grounds or because your spew out so called hate speech
All of us here in the US are entitled and reserve the right to do business with whom we want as long as it doesn't violate discrimination laws, which focus on race, religion and things like that - not opinion about whether there are lizard people ruling the government or that an election was "stolen" because a few people made up some good stories about it but there is no actual proof that can be viewed in person...at all.
Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'
#585I suppose one advantage Pirate Bay had was that they set out doing something illegal, whereas Parler probably didn't even consider the possibility that they would have to fight to stay online. Apple has tightened the rules around forums lately, I don't think they required moderation when Parler started. The other thing is of course that Pirate Bay was started by hard core computer nerds, not business people.
TPB also has the advantage of age. Their last decade has been quite stable but back in the day they would regularly go down and people would make all sorts of witty comments questioning the competence of the operators. It took them a lot of work to get where they are and they also had/have a different scaling curve than a social network.
Don't forget the raid. On a hunch one of the admins was able to make a copy of the entire database and bring it back online shortly afterwards; if he had not, they'd've had to revive it with no content, and it probably would have died out / been overtaken by some other one.
Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'
#586Earlier quoted context omitted.
Attacking another user like this will get you banned here, regardless of how wrong they are or you feel they are. Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here. They don't stop applying in cases like this, and we're trying to avoid the online callout/shaming culture here. https://hn.algolia.com/?query=online%20shaming%20by%3Adang&s...
Apologies, won’t happen again.
Appreciated!
Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'
#587I personally don't find their ability to remain online that surprising. The Pirate Bay and other torrent networks were built by people with a passion for building, maintaining and hacking things. People who, even without a solid CS background, would spend hours a day learning new things, developing distributed protocols, evading DNS blocks and hosting their content wherever they could to make it accessible - included…
There is no political profile for CS engineers.
The founder's motto was literally "Hack the planet"...
Indeed, that's not to be compared with TPB enthusiast's taste for hack and passion for CS things, but don't underestimate "right wing" techies...
Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'
#588I personally don't find their ability to remain online that surprising. The Pirate Bay and other torrent networks were built by people with a passion for building, maintaining and hacking things. People who, even without a solid CS background, would spend hours a day learning new things, developing distributed protocols, evading DNS blocks and hosting their content wherever they could to make it accessible - included…
> And even if they wanted to hire some smart engineers to do the job for them, we all know that engineers tend to swing on the other opposite of the ideological spectrum.
Do we all really know that? Some very good technical people don't have particularly strong political views or keep them separate from their job. Example: lots of ordinary devs helped build porn sites.
Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'
#589Earlier quoted context omitted.
Camera vendors are perfectly capable of storing a lot of metadata in the jpeg encoded image itself, in an steganographic way. If you want to really be sure, crop your image to a position that is not multiple of 8 on any direction, then scale it by a factor very close to 1, add some noise, and re-compress it again. Some steganography is yet robust to that, but only the really fancy stuff. Anyhow, if your image shows r…
> Anyhow, if your image shows recognizable landmarks with shadows, then it will be feasible to recover the exact point of view and the time of acquisition. With what level of accuracy? Are you claiming you can confidently assert 2020-12-21 15:12 over, say, 2020-12-22 15:15 via shadows
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Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'
#590Earlier quoted context omitted.
> "free speech". On this topic, I've seen reports on Twitter and Reddit of people who don't fit Parler's "prescribed worldview" being banned. Not so free after all.
free speech is a human right, but it's limited (in the declaration of human rights, maybe read it?!) to things that dont hurt public peace, that dont negatively impact someone else's rights, etc.
To be clear, I am not defending Parler, at all.
I was actually condemning them for not even living up to the standards they claim to profess, in addition to their other issues.