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U.S. insurrectionists received $500k in bitcoins from French donor

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#51

I hope this will get attention. Just so more people will realise that bitcoin is dangerous to use and accept because it is not private. Even if youre doing nothing wrong, would you want to unintentionally receive funds linked to this?

Same with a bas of cash, or just a transfer to your account.

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#52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's insurrection. Terrorism would be if it was against civilians with the intent to cause terror and mayhem.

Terrorism is "Premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents, usually intended to influence an audience". Trying to coerce / kidnap / etc. Congress people sounds like terrorism. They don’t have to be successful.

> Terrorism is a form of warfare in which a social movement that opposes the state directs violence toward civilians rather than the military or the police.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/collective-violence/Coups-r...

Even your own definition doesn't apply - the insurrectionists weren't a subnational group (they don't have a cohesive identity other than sharing a common cause) or clandestine agents.

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#53

Cool analysis. I wonder if the breach is considered domestic terrorism, could this funds be seized as part of an effort to fund such terrorists, or because its a private donation the gov can't touch it.

It's insurrection. Terrorism would be if it was against civilians with the intent to cause terror and mayhem.

Members of Congress are civilians.

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#55
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And Janet Yellen received millions from wall street prior to taking over the treasury department... what has that to do with anything. Nick Fuentes is despicable, but this whole article is innuendo, the title on HN included.

Which part of the headline is not supported by statements of fact from the article? The article's own headline is about 5 times too long to appear on HN so I had to abbreviate it.

Who in the article that received donations was convinced of insurrection? The article is not even alleging that any of them committed insurrection, or even entered the Capitol.

> While there’s no evidence yet that Fuentes entered the Capitol — in fact, he explicitly denies entering the building — he was present at the initial rally and seen outside the Capitol as the rioting began.

Nothing would make me happier than seeing Fuentes convicted and imprisoned, but no amount of hyperbole and false claims will make that happen.

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#56

Uh, fake news? From reading the article, the donor sent $500k to 22 different parties. Some of these parties include Luke Smith, a popular Linux youtube personality, the guy who runs cock.li, ruqqus (a reddit alternative), various right wing websites including amren.com and unz.com (which didn't promote the protest). 45% of the donation went to Nick Fuentes, who was at the capitol, but denies entering the building. A…

Sad you're being downvoted for pointing out the terrible title.

None of those people are "insurrectionists" or whatever Orwellian doublespeak is fashionable

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#57

I hope this will get attention. Just so more people will realise that bitcoin is dangerous to use and accept because it is not private. Even if youre doing nothing wrong, would you want to unintentionally receive funds linked to this?

One should always be aware of where one's money is coming from, otherwise one doesn't know who holds leverage over one's future cash flow. Bitcoin is not special in that regard, it's just another instrument for transmitting value.

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#58

Uh, fake news? From reading the article, the donor sent $500k to 22 different parties. Some of these parties include Luke Smith, a popular Linux youtube personality, the guy who runs cock.li, ruqqus (a reddit alternative), various right wing websites including amren.com and unz.com (which didn't promote the protest). 45% of the donation went to Nick Fuentes, who was at the capitol, but denies entering the building. A…

45% of the donation went to Nick Fuentes, who was at the capitol, but denies entering the building.

Nick Fuentes is possibly going to face charges of incitement, though, because he was addressing the crowd through a megaphone and urging them on while specifically mentioning that the vote counting had already been halted. Amusingly enough he was being called out on this alt-right personality Richard Spencer yesterday.

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#59

I hope this will get attention. Just so more people will realise that bitcoin is dangerous to use and accept because it is not private. Even if youre doing nothing wrong, would you want to unintentionally receive funds linked to this?

> Just so more people will realise that bitcoin is dangerous to use and accept because it is not private.

So cash is just as dangerous then as it is also used by criminals?

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#60

I hope this will get attention. Just so more people will realise that bitcoin is dangerous to use and accept because it is not private. Even if youre doing nothing wrong, would you want to unintentionally receive funds linked to this?

I suggest the problem is more about you knowing, or the public knowing, that the funds are linked to it. After all, some dollars you receive might have a sordid past, but there's not such an easy way for anyone to publicly demonstrate exactly what it was.
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