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A Week with Plan 9

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Re: A Week with Plan 9

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> 9Front And Surprise Auschwitz What the actual fuck. At first I thought this was some joke in poor taste by the blog post, but in fact he is referring to the use of Nazi death camp imagery in the documentation. That's not cool.

Considering the ubiquitous Touhou references (https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Cirno#Personality), I would assume that the project is at least 4chan-adjacent (or at least adjacent to the culture of 4chan's early days; the demographic transition from people pretending to be [bad thing] to actual [bad thing] people who are not in on the joke is a matter of internet lore). This makes it quite likely that this is exactly the reaction the authors were hoping for, with the intention of keeping out the first group in the blog post's trichotomy ("Those who won’t use 9Front because of it, those whose choice is unaffected by it, and those feeling welcomed by it.").

Re: A Week with Plan 9

#32
The more I read about some of the operating systems eventually died out (mostly), the more disappointed I am that the only realistic options for workstation/server OS’s are Windows and a handful of Unix-like systems.

Re: A Week with Plan 9

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post #5

> Plan 9 is as filled with unpolished brilliance as Mozart’s Requiem. It’s the Sagrada Familia of Operating Systems. It’s creators left long ago but people keep building on the scaffolds. If nothing else, it’s a collection of fantastic ideas never intended for mass consumption. This is The Holy Mountain of Operating Systems. Yes, they moved into Inferno, and implemented Alef ideas in Limbo. http://www.vitanuova.com/i…

Am I the only one who finds Inferno incredibly ugly compared Plan9’s UI?

Re: A Week with Plan 9

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post #30

> 9Front And Surprise Auschwitz What the actual fuck. At first I thought this was some joke in poor taste by the blog post, but in fact he is referring to the use of Nazi death camp imagery in the documentation. That's not cool.

Not everybody shares your sensibilities.

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Re: A Week with Plan 9

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's hideous. What the fuck is wrong with people?

ahem http://code.9front.org/hg/plan9front/log?rev=mein+kampf

Yes, the person who committed it was a high school teenager at the time. Maturity and good taste isn't generally associated with high schoolers. It was tasteless. And it was reverted.

My family is full of holocaust survivors. My grandmother passed through Auschwitz. 10 of her 12 siblings did not.

I am fairly heavily involved in 9front. I have never had any issues with anyone in that project -- certainly none to do with antisemitism.

Re: A Week with Plan 9

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some people in the go team were indeed part of the plan9 team, Rob Pike and Russ Cox to mention a few. Iirc Russ Cox ported Plan9 userspace to Linux when he moved to google, somehow out of frustration. Thanks for that, using acme on Unix is like a hot summer late afternoon fresh beer. Or whatever fresh beverage of your fancy.

Plan9Port works on Mac OS, Linux, several BSDs etc, and I'm nearly 100% certain existed before Russ moved to google. It pre-dates Go by a bit for sure, and Go was already underway at Google with Rob Pike before Russ came over (per my recollection). That said, I too use plan9port, on my mac, for Acme mainly. Russ just fixed up the thread library so it works more uniformly (and correctly) on all platforms - including A…

I saw the thread fix-up recently. Based on the comments, it seems setcontext/getcontext versus pthreads is becoming less of an issue these days.

Re: A Week with Plan 9

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post #5

> Plan 9 is as filled with unpolished brilliance as Mozart’s Requiem. It’s the Sagrada Familia of Operating Systems. It’s creators left long ago but people keep building on the scaffolds. If nothing else, it’s a collection of fantastic ideas never intended for mass consumption. This is The Holy Mountain of Operating Systems. Yes, they moved into Inferno, and implemented Alef ideas in Limbo. http://www.vitanuova.com/i…

Am I the only one who finds Inferno incredibly ugly compared Plan9’s UI?

While I absolutely LOVE Inferno "philosophically", I agree it doesn't win UI beauty awards... the source is all there and I could probably show my love there by updating things.

Re: A Week with Plan 9

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post #31

> 9Front And Surprise Auschwitz What the actual fuck. At first I thought this was some joke in poor taste by the blog post, but in fact he is referring to the use of Nazi death camp imagery in the documentation. That's not cool.

Considering the ubiquitous Touhou references ( https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Cirno#Personality ), I would assume that the project is at least 4chan-adjacent (or at least adjacent to the culture of 4chan's early days; the demographic transition from people pretending to be [bad thing] to actual [bad thing] people who are not in on the joke is a matter of internet lore). This makes it quite likely that this is exactly…

> (or at least adjacent to the culture of 4chan's early days; ...

From what I hear /g/ was a decent place to talk technology around 2010 or whenever and this is where the gross chan culture supposedly comes from.

Re: A Week with Plan 9

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post #5

> Plan 9 is as filled with unpolished brilliance as Mozart’s Requiem. It’s the Sagrada Familia of Operating Systems. It’s creators left long ago but people keep building on the scaffolds. If nothing else, it’s a collection of fantastic ideas never intended for mass consumption. This is The Holy Mountain of Operating Systems. Yes, they moved into Inferno, and implemented Alef ideas in Limbo. http://www.vitanuova.com/i…

AFIK Inferno was a corporate reaction to Java and intended to be an actual competing product. Plan 9 development was halted for nearly a whole year as the team focused on building Inferno.

'Inferno' sounds pretty aggressive for something in the corporate market.
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