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Post by mikeshank »

p1mrx wrote: post #39
CryptoGhost wrote: post #32

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You don't even need to do that. The actual key to running an extremist / subversive / hate / unpopular website is NOT connecting the site to any in-person activities. As long as your website is just some text floating out there in the network there is a lot of wiggle room. Sure, companies like Google or WordPress will ban you if they don't like you, but you can still get service from Cloudflare, major web hosts, or d…

> As long as your website is just some text floating out there in the network there is a lot of wiggle room. What does this even mean? Text has to be stored in some physical location, or set of locations.

I think he's referencing Flash

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Post by DarkWiiPlayer »

jonathanstrange wrote: post #541
DarkWiiPlayer wrote: post #465

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Who gets hurt in the process of making pistol schematics? Or in the making of terrorist propaganda? The hard difference is: With CP, harm is done in the process of creating the material. With most other things, harm could potentially be done as a result of the content.

That wasn't your argument, though. There is no doubt that the production of CP is and should be illegal, as it involves child abuse. However, your original argument was about the possession of CP. There is a standard argument against the claim that this is a victimless crime, and that is that the children abused are harmed by the distribution of pictures that show them. I find that argument to some extent convincing,…

That is quite literally what I said though.

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Post by DaedPsyker »

watwut wrote: post #555
blacklight wrote: post #512

I personally don't find their ability to remain online that surprising. The Pirate Bay and other torrent networks were built by people with a passion for building, maintaining and hacking things. People who, even without a solid CS background, would spend hours a day learning new things, developing distributed protocols, evading DNS blocks and hosting their content wherever they could to make it accessible - included…

> Those who believe in conspiracy content are people characterized by a psychological tendency to take shortcuts whenever they can in order to minimize their efforts in learning and understanding new things I dont think it is that simple. I remember reading finding that smart highly intelligent people are more attracted to conspiracy theories. The complexity of those theories and details those rely on attract them. A…

I'd be interested on information on that and how it was performed. Ive found that many of successful people who talk about conspiracies tend to be self serving. Like that Texas lawyer that brought a case of election fraud, likely to catch attention of Trump to pardon him due to his own legal problems. Others as a scaremongering technique to influence politics.

The only ones that seem to believe in them are those clearly unhinged (McAfee comes straight to mind although his seems self serving too).

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Post by LadyCailin »

citizenpaul wrote: post #552
koffiezet wrote: post #542

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> The Pirate Bay and other torrent networks were built by people with a passion for building Also by people who know that what they were doing was straight-up illegal in a lot of countries, and grey-area in a lot of others. So this was a real risk. Parler on the other hand, at its core was just a social network, and if you look at the founders/owners, they have a very disconnected interpretation of "free speech", so…

disconnected interpretation of "free speech" Oh yeah whats that comrad?

That saying “hey, let’s violently overthrow the government” isn’t a class of protected speech.

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Post by ardy42 »

rendall wrote: post #316
ardy42 wrote: post #292

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> The Hacker Who Archived Parler Explains How She Did It (and What Comes Next) I'm really glad she did that. I'm fine with all this stuff getting taken down, but it really needs to be archived somewhere for historical purposes, to help understand this moment. Given the kind of media and political impact Trump's tweets from @theRealDonaldTrump have been, I really hope they're archived at NARA along with the @POTUS twe…

> "I'm fine with all this stuff getting taken down" I understand this on a visceral level, but I wish more people would look beyond that to the implications for communication on the web. This action by Amazon happens to correspond with what I think is right and just on first iteration, but what principle prevents Amazon from arsing some other group that we agree with?

>> "I'm fine with all this stuff getting taken down"

> I understand this on a visceral level, but I wish more people would look beyond that to the implications for communication on the web. This action by Amazon happens to correspond with what I think is right and just on first iteration, but what principle prevents Amazon from arsing some other group that we agree with?

It's kind of predictable but still disappointing that this was the part of my comment people chose to discuss with a 43-comment thread. It was the least novel and interesting idea in it.

But to your point, there's a lot more "looking beyond" than just that. There also needs to be a lot more looking beyond rather limited fundamentalist views of free speech, which tend to abrogate other fundamental rights and be so short-sighted that they actually bring discredit to the values they try to protect.

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Post by datavirtue »

dexterdog wrote: post #504
minot wrote: post #429

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Is there still no easy straightforward way in $current_year to put an absolute spend cap of say USD 0, USD 5, or USD 10 per month on Amazon.com web services or Google Cloud Platform? I’d think I’d like to prepay a fixed dollar amount like USD 200 IF I anticipate some major event but really this is problematic for students. I just want to use the free tier. Why is this so hard?

What's worse is that it costs something like $90 per TB of outbound bandwidth. That is absolute robbery and it is consistent across the cloud cartel.

Why is it robbery? Perhaps your beef is with the ISPs?

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Post by WClayFerguson »

swebs wrote: post #476
onion2k wrote: post #183

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... what else do you really need? A proper database. :)

Is that supposed to be a dig against MySQL, or did you just miss that in the list?

Looks like you misspelled "NoSQL" :)

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Post by kennywinker »

PeterStuer wrote: post #443
kennywinker wrote: post #353

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If you come up with a good solution, let us know. Until then, I’m happy to support antitrust action against apple/google/amazon/facebook - but for more pressing reasons than the deplatforming of fascists attempting to overthrow a fair and free election.

Essential Utilities are governed in many places by Universal Service Directives ensuring private companies can not willy nilly choose to deny them as they see fit for commercial or other reasons.

I am familiar with that concept. Good luck arguing that aws, google play, or the app store is an essential utility.

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Post by kennywinker »

cycomanic wrote: post #460
rendall wrote: post #359

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> more pressing reasons than the deplatforming of fascists Hint: it's the identical problem to deplatforming BLM or Antifa or Occupy or the Proud Boys or pick anyone you agree with that annoys powerful people. "Having the better politics" will not protect you. "Oh they're just fascists" will not protect your peoples.

But they have been doing that since forever and nobody was complaining. Here's a link to when twitter deleted 125,000 ISIS accounts [1] (and they had been monitoring for islam extremist content for much longer already). So I ask why this uproar now that they are deplatforming fascists? [1] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/feb/05/twitter-d...

I suspect the difference is more about deplatforming americans than any political view.

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Post by WClayFerguson »

indigodaddy wrote: post #384
WClayFerguson wrote: post #253

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We used AWS and EC2 at my last job so I've done about 4 years worth of what you're describing. Definitely if you use Amazon as your way of getting a Linux instance that's fine, because then you can just move to Linode or any other hosting service because Linux is the one thing they all support. When I say don't use "AWS" I should've been more clear I'm talking about their proprietary stuff. Basically you should be ab…

Parler didn’t use any proprietary AWS services.

The Parler CEO initially said they would be offline for a whole week, in order to “rebuild from scratch”.
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