A Week with Plan 9
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A Week with Plan 9
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Re: A Week with Plan 9
#2It's not entirely abandoned. A few years ago Brad Fitzpatrick dropped by my desk because the latest Google Compute Engine virtualization stack rollout had broken Plan 9 on GCE. This was interfering with cutting a new Go release (the official releases ran on VMs running Plan 9). I don't remember the specific breakage, but that was the day we added Plan 9 to the stable of operating systems we run in our CI regression suite against new VM releases.
I don't know if the Go releases are still done on Plan 9, but it seems likely that's still an active use of the OS.
Re: A Week with Plan 9
#3> This is a fringe Operating System
No, TempleOS was a fringe operating system.
Plan 9 was a legitimate research operating system developed by computer scientists who had a key role in the development of UNIX and other highly-regarded pieces of software.
Plan 9-based technologies are a part of most, if not all, operating systems today (even Windows!).
But, a fun article, and I'm always happy to see Plan 9 crop up from time to time. It's at risk of being forgotten, but shouldn't be.
Re: A Week with Plan 9
#4It's not entirely abandoned. A few years ago Brad Fitzpatrick dropped by my desk because the latest Google Compute Engine virtualization stack rollout had broken Plan 9 on GCE. This was interfering with cutting a new Go release (the official releases ran on VMs running Plan 9). I don't remember the specific breakage, but that was the day we added Plan 9 to the stable of operating systems we run in our CI regression s…
I know that Russ Cox & Rob Pike both still use plan9.
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#5> Plan 9 is as filled with unpolished brilliance as Mozart’s Requiem. It’s the Sagrada Familia of Operating Systems. It’s creators left long ago but people keep building on the scaffolds. If nothing else, it’s a collection of fantastic ideas never intended for mass consumption. This is The Holy Mountain of Operating Systems.
Yes, they moved into Inferno, and implemented Alef ideas in Limbo.
http://www.vitanuova.com/inferno/
The forgotten legacy from Plan 9 authors, and influence on Go original design.
Re: A Week with Plan 9
#6> This is a fringe Operating System No, TempleOS was a fringe operating system. Plan 9 was a legitimate research operating system developed by computer scientists who had a key role in the development of UNIX and other highly-regarded pieces of software. Plan 9-based technologies are a part of most, if not all, operating systems today (even Windows!). But, a fun article, and I'm always happy to see Plan 9 crop up fro…
> Plan 9-based technologies are a part of most, if not all, operating systems today (even Windows!).
9p is indeed a great technology—I would have also thrown in utf-8—but most of plan9's ideas remain quite fringe. I would pay a ton of money for an OS with both bind and browser support. Plumber is still leagues better than anything offered by macs/linux/windows.
That said, I don't see "fringe" as being mutually exclusive with "legitimate". TempleOS had some features that other OS's could use, too—its use of hyperlinking is actually really cool.
Re: A Week with Plan 9
#7> Plan 9 is as filled with unpolished brilliance as Mozart’s Requiem. It’s the Sagrada Familia of Operating Systems. It’s creators left long ago but people keep building on the scaffolds. If nothing else, it’s a collection of fantastic ideas never intended for mass consumption. This is The Holy Mountain of Operating Systems. Yes, they moved into Inferno, and implemented Alef ideas in Limbo. http://www.vitanuova.com/i…
>Yes, they moved into Inferno, and implemented Alef ideas in Limbo.
No to 9front, 9legacy AND Inferno.
Re: A Week with Plan 9
#8> Plan 9 is as filled with unpolished brilliance as Mozart’s Requiem. It’s the Sagrada Familia of Operating Systems. It’s creators left long ago but people keep building on the scaffolds. If nothing else, it’s a collection of fantastic ideas never intended for mass consumption. This is The Holy Mountain of Operating Systems. Yes, they moved into Inferno, and implemented Alef ideas in Limbo. http://www.vitanuova.com/i…
>Yes, they moved into Inferno, and implemented Alef ideas in Limbo. No to 9front, 9legacy AND Inferno.
The creators of plan9 are not involved in 9front, and I don't think they were ever involved with 9legacy, unless I've missed something. I believe 9front's (rather colorful) user manual pointedly remarks that the original authors of plan9 have long since abandoned the project.
Re: A Week with Plan 9
#9> Plan 9 is as filled with unpolished brilliance as Mozart’s Requiem. It’s the Sagrada Familia of Operating Systems. It’s creators left long ago but people keep building on the scaffolds. If nothing else, it’s a collection of fantastic ideas never intended for mass consumption. This is The Holy Mountain of Operating Systems. Yes, they moved into Inferno, and implemented Alef ideas in Limbo. http://www.vitanuova.com/i…
>Yes, they moved into Inferno, and implemented Alef ideas in Limbo. No to 9front, 9legacy AND Inferno.
Pike, Thompson, Presotto, Collyer, McKie, none of these people contribute to either 9front or 9legacy, beyond providing the original Plan 9 code base which underlies all the forks.
Re: A Week with Plan 9
#10It's not entirely abandoned. A few years ago Brad Fitzpatrick dropped by my desk because the latest Google Compute Engine virtualization stack rollout had broken Plan 9 on GCE. This was interfering with cutting a new Go release (the official releases ran on VMs running Plan 9). I don't remember the specific breakage, but that was the day we added Plan 9 to the stable of operating systems we run in our CI regression s…
Some people in the go team were indeed part of the plan9 team, Rob Pike and Russ Cox to mention a few.
Iirc Russ Cox ported Plan9 userspace to Linux when he moved to google, somehow out of frustration. Thanks for that, using acme on Unix is like a hot summer late afternoon fresh beer. Or whatever fresh beverage of your fancy.