Social media like Facebook/Twitter is basically a vibrator for narcissistic supply. We should all just step back, put these toys down, recognize it's a vice, and that there is a real world out there to be lived in.
Facebook Incubated the Insurrection
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#42Terrible. The storming of the capitol was probably the most frightening single event in American history in recent times. I just got off the phone with my friend who lives in China. He was in tears. He didn't understand how someone could have such disregard for the value of human life and democracy to walk inside the capitol building in DC. It's completely against the law. For those in the dark, the event caused seri…
I suspect living through the collapse of Libya as an innocent resident of that country, was probably one of the most frightening events in recent American history.
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#43So is Google going to throw them out of the Play store? What's the argument for banning one social media and not another. Where do you draw the line that manages to keep Facebooks app available, while still being able to defend the removal of Parler. I know many will think I'm defending Parler, I'm not. I just don't see why Facebook is continuously given a free pass for all the horrible stuff on their platform. Is it…
Parler, unlike Facebook, only existed to foment the kinds of rhetoric and ideologies that lead to the 6th.
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#44Somebody from Facebook recently told me they developed the best system to flag radical/violent content in the world, I pointed out they first developed the best system to spread it.
Well they didn't develop the platform specifically for spreading radical/violent content. They build a generic platform for spreading thoughts among friends, and racist/violent people used the generic platform to spread their thoughts.
Philip Morris didn’t intentionally develop a system to spread lung cancer, and yet they did.
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#46Somebody from Facebook recently told me they developed the best system to flag radical/violent content in the world, I pointed out they first developed the best system to spread it.
What makes Facebook worse, in my mind, is that people don't seem to care that it's their real name associated with terrible radical, violent and angry comment. At least on something like 4Chan you'd be anonymous, but nope, people will write the most grotesque comments, while everyone can see their real name, where they live and who they work for. Some people don't seem to care, and that's pretty scary.
It's easy, just give people a soci^H^H^H^H ... community rating to motivate them to behave better!
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#47Yes, social media and maybe even the internet as a whole will radicalize its users. Facebook is a groupthink incubator. So is hacker news. I've witnessed many people change their political beliefs to match whichever group they belong to.
In what direction does HN radicalize us?
There are many Taboo opinions and thought tracks on HN that guarantee downvoting and as a result anyone not exposed to them in advance might be inclined to think that they must be heresies that should never be considered by the intelligentsia.
Example https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25768269
And things that contradict The Great Stallman teachings like TiVoization (even in self-driving cars) or saying that something can be done more efficiently with Windows (or just not Linux/OSS in general) or that plenty of ML is outright useless BS that does more harm that good.
Edit: Thanks to whoever unflagged the HN post! Let's see how long it'll stay unflagged this time!
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#48Terrible. The storming of the capitol was probably the most frightening single event in American history in recent times. I just got off the phone with my friend who lives in China. He was in tears. He didn't understand how someone could have such disregard for the value of human life and democracy to walk inside the capitol building in DC. It's completely against the law. For those in the dark, the event caused seri…
Explain it to an engineer. A few people in a mostly peaceful protest got out of hand and this is the most frightening event ever? I'd say the congressmen shooting was 10x scarier yet received 100x less news coverage. Just to be clear, sarcasm and unduly extreme language do not work as well on an engineer :)
Agreed. It's silly how much pearl-clutching we've had for 4 years.
All of things Trump has been "guilty" were pioneered by Democrats, whether it be election fraud allegations by Hillary, conspiracy theories re: Russiagate for years, Scalise shooting by a Bernie supporter or violent protests a la BLM.
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#49All Facebook really did is show blue city liberals how their fellow countrymen actually are. Yes, they have been like this the whole time, you just either didn’t care or were insulated from it your entire life.
If any of this is news to you, you should probably think twice before blaming it on Facebook, alone.
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#50So is Google going to throw them out of the Play store? What's the argument for banning one social media and not another. Where do you draw the line that manages to keep Facebooks app available, while still being able to defend the removal of Parler. I know many will think I'm defending Parler, I'm not. I just don't see why Facebook is continuously given a free pass for all the horrible stuff on their platform. Is it…
Parler, unlike Facebook, only existed to foment the kinds of rhetoric and ideologies that lead to the 6th.
How do you reconcile the whole “if you don’t like Facebook moderation go build your own” bit.